2012 Presidential Poll

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We might as well make this more accurate. There should be a separate poll JUST for the Republican Primaries. This one is for after that mess is sorted out.
 
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
 
JoshuaNY said:
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
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I framed it this way because many don’t care who the GOP nomination is going to be, they are either going to vote for him/her regardless of who it is or refuse to vote for him/her regardless of who it is. Some will vote for Barack Obama regardless of what he stands for. The poll is anonymous, so noone will know who voted for whom.
 
JoshuaNY said:
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
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Perhaps, but it is possible to make a reasonable guess as to which party will more closely allign with what I hold to be important.

Obviously if the republicans nominate Satan himself, I will be forced to abstain from the election.
 
vz71 said:
Perhaps, but it is possible to make a reasonable guess as to which party will more closely allign with what I hold to be important.

Obviously if the republicans nominate Satan himself, I will be forced to abstain from the election.
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Since we know that the GOP nominee will generally be some establishment clone, or a rogue that is whipped into line, we can pretty safely say that even if Satan is nominated, there are going to be some boundaries he is going to have to comply with.
 
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Since we know that the GOP nominee will generally be some establishment clone, or a rogue that is whipped into line, we can pretty safely say that even if Satan is nominated, there are going to be some boundaries he is going to have to comply with.
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I have faith in the superior mind of archangels compared to us.
Nominating Satan would be a problem as I am quite certain that tail would wag the dog around.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Since we know that the GOP nominee will generally be some establishment clone, or a rogue that is whipped into line, we can pretty safely say that even if Satan is nominated, there are going to be some boundaries he is going to have to comply with.
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That is a scary thought, in my honest opinion. Would one be obligated to vote for ‘Satan’ if he stated he was pro-life? Come on, the ‘great deceiver’? :rolleyes:
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
That is a scary thought, in my honest opinion. Would one be obligated to vote for ‘Satan’ if he stated he was pro-life? Come on, the ‘great deceiver’? :rolleyes:
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I mean, this is all hypothetical. All of the GOP candidates, possibly excepting Ron Paul, are cut from the same cloth. Is there one of the nominees that is so significantly “out there” that if he/she captures the GOP nod, conservatives/Republicans will refuse to vote for? Gary Johnson…maybe, I don’t even like him that much and he is a libertarian, but he is pro-abortion so that pretty much throws him out for me, so he won’t get the GOP nod.

Which Republican (this is a question for Republicans/conservatives only, I already know what the Democrats/liberals are going to say) is such a complete anathema that if nominated, you will sit out the election?
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
I mean, this is all hypothetical. All of the GOP candidates, possibly excepting Ron Paul, are cut from the same cloth. Is there one of the nominees that is so significantly “out there” that if he/she captures the GOP nod, conservatives/Republicans will refuse to vote for? Gary Johnson…maybe, I don’t even like him that much and he is a libertarian, but he is pro-abortion so that pretty much throws him out for me, so he won’t get the GOP nod.

Which Republican (this is a question for Republicans/conservatives only, I already know what the Democrats/liberals are going to say) is such a complete anathema that if nominated, you will sit out the election?
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I’m willing to keep pushing the GOP along until we can find out if the tea party candidates are having an impact on the establishment. Try got several good junior congress members in who will make good politicians as they gain more power. We just need to filter the d ones out.

That being said, I think until the the time come that we can determine whether this fails or succeeds I will vote for the person I feel has the best chance of winning as long as he is pro life.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
I’m willing to keep pushing the GOP along until we can find out if the tea party candidates are having an impact on the establishment. Try got several good junior congress members in who will make good politicians as they gain more power. We just need to filter the d ones out.

That being said, I think until the the time come that we can determine whether this fails or succeeds I will vote for the person I feel has the best chance of winning as long as he is pro life.
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I agree completely.
 
JoshuaNY said:
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
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I’m with you on that. My decision in 2012 will depend on who the nominees are.
 
JoshuaNY said:
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
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That’s very true. I remember back before the '08 elections thinking “anyone would be better than Hillary Clinton”. How wrong I was. :o
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
That is a scary thought, in my honest opinion. Would one be obligated to vote for ‘Satan’ if he stated he was pro-life? Come on, the ‘great deceiver’? :rolleyes:
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This is why we’re supposed to compare actual track records instead of pre-selected sound bytes. 😉
 
exoflare said:
This is why we’re supposed to compare actual track records instead of pre-selected sound bytes. 😉
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As Jesus said, judge a tree by its fruit:
There is no sound tree that produces rotten fruit, nor again a rotten tree that produces sound fruit. For every tree can be told by its own fruit: people do not pick figs from thorns, nor gather grapes from brambles.
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source: Luke 7:43-44
 
JoshuaNY said:
I try not to base my votes on political party affiliation, but on the candidate themselves. I think it is difficult to answer this poll without first knowing the other candidates.
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Do you discount the effect that a party has on it’s candidate? We all remember Bart Stupak, don’t we?
 
vz71 said:
I have faith in the superior mind of archangels compared to us.
Nominating Satan would be a problem as I am quite certain that tail would wag the dog around.
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This is both scary and true! :eek:

Regarding the poll, I can’t vote without names, because like Treebeard:
“I am not altogether on anybody’s side, because nobody is altogether on my side, if you understand me… And there are some things, of course, whose side I’m altogether not on; I am against them altogether.” (Tolkien 2001, p.461)

Peace. 🙂
 
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