2014 US Election Open Thread

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CaptFun said:
I find myself agreeing with this. Particularly after every CLOSE race she campaigned in resulted in better GOP numbers. Her unlikability factor cannot be underestimated. If she runs the Dems should send out Bill instead with and cardboard cutout of Hill … Looking pleasant.

No wait! She might the. WIN!
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Apparently it is Hilary’s turn, something the GOP is familiar with.

It is up to the GOP. If they nominate another moderate like Romney, Dole, McCain or Ford they will lose like these moderates have lost every other time since 1972 as they will fail to get generic conservatives to the voting booths in percentages equal to the moderates, liberals and independents.
 
estesbob said:
Why do I get the feeling you were a Ron Paul supporter?
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Bob, if you had watched the Janet Yellen hearings, you would have known many Republicans were rightly concerned about the actions of the Fed. Monetary policy is just as important as fiscal policy, if not more so in terms of federal control of the marketplace. That $4 trillion debt will haunt us for many years, especially since we’re all paying interest on it.
 
Obama won both times with a record turnout by African Americans. Though I was not for Obama, I can see how his supporters could perceive him as charismatic. Demographics perhaps have changed too.

Romney won the white vote by the same margin as Reagan.

washingtonexaminer.com/romney-wins-white-vote-by-same-margin-as-reagan-did-in-1980-landslide/article/2512819

I don’t think African Americans will turn out for the 2016 DemocratIC party nominee as they did for Obama, in 2008, I even directed some African American voters to the precinct.
 
One honestly has to wonder if the voting machines in Maryland were fixed, unconfirmed is those machines were mainly in Republican districts, the calibration is fixed and voila, a Republican Governor is elected. Really makes you wonder.
 
66 of the 99 State Legislative Houses are GOP controlled

americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/did_you_know_the_gop_now_controls_66_of_99_state_legislative_houses.html
Another underreported fact from Tuesday’s election is the extraordinary night Republicans had in winning state legislative seats.
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The GOP now controls two thirds of state legislative houses – 66 of 99 (Nebraska’s legislature is unicameral). They upped the number of states where they control both house and senate to 24 – one more than they had before the election. And according to this article in Vox, they cut the number of Democratic-held legislatures from 14 to 7.
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General observation. I think those of us who are supportive of the Republicans need to start a mental mantra “remember 2012 - remember 2012”. 2010 did not lead to success in 2012. 2014 will only lead to success in 2016 if the Republicans perform effectively for next two years AND select a good candidate to run for a UNITED party that can appeal to independents and other groups in the same kind of numbers that happened in this election. The demographics still favor the Democrats fairly heavily in a presidential election. A lot will happen between now and 2016. The reason the Republicans had this cake walk was the incompetency and excesses of the Obama administration (and other key Democratic policies) stirring up real rage and even fear in the electorate. The next two years could very well diminish that rage, or worse yet, divide it against the parties. We need to take what’s good here and BUILD on it. We’re just getting started.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
General observation. I think those of us who are supportive of the Republicans need to start a mental mantra “remember 2012 - remember 2012”. 2010 did not lead to success in 2012. 2014 will only lead to success in 2016 if the Republicans perform effectively for next two years AND select a good candidate to run for a UNITED party that can appeal to independents and other groups in the same kind of numbers that happened in this election. The demographics still favor the Democrats fairly heavily in a presidential election. A lot will happen between now and 2016. The reason the Republicans had this cake walk was the incompetency and excesses of the Obama administration (and other key Democratic policies) stirring up real rage and even fear in the electorate. The next two years could very well diminish that rage, or worse yet, divide it against the parties. We need to take what’s good here and BUILD on it. We’re just getting started.
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The best way to get a GOOD candidate is to get involved before there is only 1 left.
 
$71 million wasn’t spent in Iowa on a cake-walk, Wisconsin probably has similar numbers. Republican Governor elected in Maryland. That’s not a cake walk, it is a reaction to the administration’s policies but it was a hard-earned victory.
 
RGCheek said:
Whats one got to do with the other? You think the only people keeping an eye on the Federal Reserve are Ron Paul supporters?

So, I guess you are totally OK with handing out $4 TRILLION to Wall Street banks? IF not why change the subject?

So you gonna toss some Sola Scriptura claims to cover for thieving Wall Street banks and the pols that fetch water for them?

The core to all humor is a slice of Truth, though perhaps it was more Truth than you intended.

Truthfully, you have no problem with $4 TRILLION being given away to billionaire banksters? Really?
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Jesus would tell you to find the money in the mouth of a fish.
 
RGCheek said:
It is up to the GOP. If they nominate another moderate like Romney, Dole, McCain or Ford they will lose like these moderates have lost every other time since 1972 as they will fail to get generic conservatives to the voting booths in percentages equal to the moderates, liberals and independents.
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Most political analysts agree that the GOP won big this time precisely because the party establishment forces made sure that Tea Party candidates did not advance beyond the primaries, leaving only establishment Republicans with broad-based support. Last time they let fringe candidates define the party. If they nominate a Tea Party candidate or other non-establishment candidate for president, they are likely to lose big, which is why you will see an establishment candidate in 2016.
 
Path_Finder said:
One honestly has to wonder if the voting machines in Maryland were fixed, unconfirmed is those machines were mainly in Republican districts, the calibration is fixed and voila, a Republican Governor is elected. Really makes you wonder.
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If it is in Maryland, I do wonder.

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LeafByNiggle said:
Most political analysts agree that the GOP won big this time precisely because the party establishment forces made sure that Tea Party candidates did not advance beyond the primaries, leaving only establishment Republicans with broad-based support. Last time they let fringe candidates define the party. If they nominate a Tea Party candidate or other non-establishment candidate for president, they are likely to lose big, which is why you will see an establishment candidate in 2016.
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Was Reagan, and G W Bush an establishment candidate? They won.

Was Ford, Dole, McCain and Romney establishment? Yes and they lost.

Funny how people can talk themselves into believing the opposite of Reality.

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estesbob said:
She is a terrible campaigner and has absolutely no record to run on. I hops she runs and I hope she gets the nomination.
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I also hope she runs but, I believe, for a different reason than you! Actually, I would prefer Elizabeth Warren, a modern-day populist politician.
 
RGCheek said:
Was Reagan, and G W Bush an establishment candidate? They won.

Was Ford, Dole, McCain and Romney establishment? Yes and they lost.

Funny how people can talk themselves into believing the opposite of Reality.

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Good point. However, Reagan had charisma and projected an image of the kindly grandfather, sorely lacking in Ford, Dole, McCain, and Romney. Further, Carter was a disaster and the economy was in worse shape than ever, not to mention the Iran hostage debacle. And G.W. Bush had Karl Rove.
 
RGCheek said:
Was Reagan, and G W Bush an establishment candidate? They won.

Was Ford, Dole, McCain and Romney establishment? Yes and they lost.

Funny how people can talk themselves into believing the opposite of Reality.

🙂
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You don’t think GWB was establishment? Sorry if I’m misunderstanding you.
 
Path_Finder said:
$71 million wasn’t spent in Iowa on a cake-walk, Wisconsin probably has similar numbers. Republican Governor elected in Maryland. That’s not a cake walk, it is a reaction to the administration’s policies but it was a hard-earned victory.
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The Democrats threw everything they had at this election. I don’t deny that. It wasn’t enough. I agree with Limbaugh - the vote was about stopping Obama. That is why I did it. The Republicans kept issues pretty much at bay, especially gay marriage and for that matter abortion. They played nice. When you think about it, it worked. I mean, Obama I think downplayed his leftist tendencies (at least in 2008) to appeal to more moderates. That worked too.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
The demographics still favor the Democrats fairly heavily in a presidential election.
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Only because Republicans still fail to get their base (generic conservatives) to show up to vote in numbers proportionate to everyone else.

The self identifying conservatives are 45% of the population but only 37% of those voting were conservatives. Why did 8% of them sit home and not vote? In contrast, in 2010 conservatives had a 42% turn out.

Of middle income people 54% voted GOP, but their percentage went down from 37% in 2010 to 32% this year.

In an off year election you can play to your elites preferences as those people vote in off year elections far more heavily. But you have to get your base out in Presidential elections and the GOP is still failing in that regard.
 
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