2014 US Election Open Thread

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So you can point to the success of voting 3rd party (excluding independents who are really either Democrats or Republicans, but call themselves “independent” for political reasons)? Senators? Congressmen? Governors? Presidents?
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Do you not actually see the tautology you just created?
 
Fetuses might disagree
The GOP had control of both houses of Congress in 204 to 2006 and had the opportunity to roll back the leftist social agenda in this country to include putting into law common sense regulation of the abortion industry that would raise the cost of abortion, curtailing it and thus saving the lives of many unborn BABIES.

They did NOTHING on that and other social conservative issues and it seriously hurt them in 2006 among values voters.
 
I am dropping out of this thread. Said my say.

Just remember folks; our kingdom is NOT of this world, and the GOP is no more representative of the interests of Biblical Christians than the Dems are.
 
I am a true Constitutionalist and believe the founding fathers of the U.S. truly set up the best possible form of government. But unfortunately, it has been hijacked by special interest groups, lobbyists, money, and greed. I don’t know if there is any going back. There will never be a third party in our current system. You can’t even get a third party in debates because Republicans and Democrats have colluded to make up the rules. Because of this, I think we need to move to a system where all parties gain representation proportionately according to percentage of the vote. I live in a state completely ruled by one party (governor, both senators, and all five representatives), but no one wins elections by more than 60%. so you have 40% of the population with absolutely NO representation. This is a system doomed for failure.
I’m not sure there’s anything to go “back” to except more of the same. Remember the “spoils system”? Arguably, it was once even worse than now.

I’m not sure it’s possible to entirely rid a system of the influence of money.

Nor am I sure there’s any possibility all of three parties can long survive. It always comes back to two.

There is a system of proportional representation, of course, but it’s only on the state level. Originally, state legislatures appointed congressmen, and there’s something to be said for it.
 
I am dropping out of this thread. Said my say.

Just remember folks; our kingdom is NOT of this world, and the GOP is no more representative of the interests of Biblical Christians than the Dems are.
Perhaps not, but the Dem party is much farther away from the interests (and morality) of biblical Christians than is the GOP. At least at present that’s so.
 
I am dropping out of this thread. Said my say.

Just remember folks; our kingdom is NOT of this world, and the GOP is no more representative of the interests of Biblical Christians than the Dems are.
Voting for Dems = 0% chance of change on pro-life issues + high chance of pro-abortion rights judges being appointed

Voting for Reps = >0% chance of change on pro-life issues + lower chance of pro-abortion rights judges being appointed.

Fact#1: Republicans passed strong pro-life legislation in Texas
Fact#2: Pro-abortion rights judges overturned the law

Republicans aren’t perfect, but with them odds are better that we’ll get something pro-life than with Democrats for which there is a ZERO percent chance.
 
Voting for Dems = 0% chance of change on pro-life issues + high chance of pro-abortion rights judges being appointed

Voting for Reps = >0% chance of change on pro-life issues + lower chance of pro-abortion rights judges being appointed.

Fact#1: Republicans passed strong pro-life legislation in Texas
Fact#2: Pro-abortion rights judges overturned the law

Republicans aren’t perfect, but with them odds are better that we’ll get something pro-life than with Democrats for which there is a ZERO percent chance.
Fact#2: That law is still being contested.

statesman.com/news/news/opinion/facebook-comments/nhzPD/

It is like the Voter’s Registration Law, it was eventually upheld. One never knows the outcomes of battles if one doesn’t engage in them.
 
Republicans take control of the Senate and increase their control of the House in Tuesday’s elections.

Tuesday’s big electoral wins have handed the reins of Congress to Republicans for the remainder of President Obama’s term, but immediately raise the question of whether the next two years will bring more acrimonious gridlock – or some compromise on key issues ranging from immigration to energy.

In his victory speech Tuesday night, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, who is expected to ascend to majority leader, said some things won’t change next year. But he stressed that lawmakers and the White House don’t have to be in “perpetual conflict” and “have an obligation to work together.”

McConnell said Wednesday marks the start of “the race to turn this country around.”

Different flanks of the Republican Party have different ideas of how that effort would play out.

Some plan to use the perks of majority-hood to put renewed pressure on the Obama administration. With Republicans gaining at least 7 seats in the Senate, the party will chair key committees and have the power to launch investigations and hold hearings from both chambers. Plus they’ll be able to more easily hold up political and judicial appointments.

foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/05/republicans-take-control-congress-can-obama-gop-end-perpetual-conflict/
 
All of these abortion laws are fought by deep pockets Planned Parenthood who yes, gets taxpayer’s monies.

The Republicans should continue to ride this wave.

Ron Paul was saying the last Republican congress helped get us in a war, unfortunately, that would be so, so this is what is to be careful about, otherwise, they have a really good agenda and Planned Parenthood has been close to being defunded before as it has been in individual states. States likewise have won a number of cases for anti-abortion legislation where basically you have a number of pro-choice states with relatively high abortion rates but the rest of the states have low abortion rates in general, Wyoming, Dakotas and so on.
 
I am so happy that Martha Coakley lost the governor race in Massachusetts. Now we have a republican, Charlie Baker. But. On the negative now we have Maura Healy the first open lesbian attorney general. Worries me that she will now push for more pro homosexual legislation and to push homosexualism even more down out throats.😦
 
Perhaps not, but the Dem party is much farther away from the interests (and morality) of biblical Christians than is the GOP. At least at present that’s so.
👍 Yes I agree, while God is certainly not a Republican or Democrat(Lol) as of right now the Republican party has a pro-life platform and in most(but not all) cases is much closer to Biblical Christianity in many of it’s stances, including defending religious freedom.
In my case, I also support a strong defense as the only deterrence to keeping the bad guys away. So another reason for me.
But one reason I haven’t been able to vote Dem for many years is I am basically a one-issue person on the Right to Life. Without the Right to Life all other rights are basically meaningless. There are very few if any pro-life Democrats these days and if there are they keep quiet about it.
Yes I know there are pro choice Republicans, but many more are pro-life.
 
Well, the midterms are over, God be praised but now the two-year Presidential campaign will start [groan].
Can we come up with a better system? Maybe a “Hunger Games” contest to choose nominees instead of primaries? Or a national lottery to pick the President? I’m open to suggestions.
 
I am so happy that Martha Coakley lost the governor race in Massachusetts. Now we have a republican, Charlie Baker. But. On the negative now we have Maura Healy the first open lesbian attorney general. Worries me that she will now push for more pro homosexual legislation and to push homosexualism even more down out throats.😦
yeah I know this kind of thing worries me too, however the pushback in Texas maybe she’ll think twice
 
Planned Parenthood, Lena Dunham, NARAL, and all the other so-called women’s-rights advocates are left stunned today that their message of abortion-on-demand and without apology and free birth control didn’t work. Of course it didn’t work: It was insulting and out-of-touch with what moms, businesswomen, and college students care about. What about the economy, jobs, health care? Our country is failing women in those areas and all Planned Parenthood wants to do is promote an actress who relates voting to a sexual experience. Grow up. It was a big mistake to trot out stories about how abortion should be less stigmatized and how a procedure that ends the life of another, defenseless human being is a social and moral good. The tide is turning and Americans, especially women, are listening to that gut reaction they have when faced with a heavy-handed message of abortion-on-demand. No amount of pretty pink running shoes or T-shirts designed by Hollywood actresses are going to cover up the fact that abortion harms women and takes the life of an innocent preborn child.
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nationalreview.com/corner/392075/women-made-their-voices-heard-kristan-hawkins
 
Ron Paul was saying the last Republican congress helped get us in a war, unfortunately, that would be so, so this is what is to be careful about, otherwise, they have a really good agenda .
Had Obama been president in 2003, Saddam Hussein or one of his sons would likely be in power in Iraq unless Al Quaeda generated sufficient power to overthrow them, in which case the situation then would have been the same as now. Some would prefer that to the situation immediately preceding Obama’s abandoning of Iraq, but it’s hard to imagine why.

But had Hillary Clinton been president then, probably the second Iraq War would have still happened. Remember that she voted for it while in Congress.

So I’m not convinced Ron Paul said anything worth hearing on the subject.

The key thing in the central Middle East is not the taking out of Saddam Hussein. It’s the failure to follow up when all parties of importance begged us to stay longer to ensure the peace.
 
Well, the midterms are over, God be praised but now the two-year Presidential campaign will start [groan].
Can we come up with a better system? Maybe a “Hunger Games” contest to choose nominees instead of primaries? Or a national lottery to pick the President? I’m open to suggestions.
I would like that. Bet the Republicans would have an advantage-they would show up with Guns and the Democrats would show up with lawyers.
 
Well, the midterms are over, God be praised but now the two-year Presidential campaign will start [groan].
Can we come up with a better system? Maybe a “Hunger Games” contest to choose nominees instead of primaries? Or a national lottery to pick the President? I’m open to suggestions.
The “Hunger Games” approach would probably be more entertaining than a lottery. While the end would not be pretty, it could be interesting to watch, e.g., Hillary Clinton and Chris Christie stalking each other in a jungle, armed with crossbows.
 
Just as soon as there are enough support for a Constitutional Amendment, which is the only way realistically that will happen at the federal level.
I dont want to sound grim but that only will happen if we get a truly prolufe next president and Ruth bader Ginsburg (or Breyer but Ginsburg is the oldest one so lets bet on gingsburg dying first) dies and the president nominates an actual pro life justice and with a majority ssenate being pro life gets confirmed. Not sure about the odds of that one…
 
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