24 hour days in Genesis?

[Redratfish]

Healings and other spontaneous miracles recorded in the N.T.?

And assuming for a moment that “yom” means “period,” then why didn’t God describe the sequence of creation the way Darwinism does? Would He lie about something like that? Also, you still haven’t explained the hedging in of “yom” by the “evening/day” phrase each time. All cultures live under the same sun and moon cycles, no?

He isn’t lying, God explains things as people would understand them at that time. Fact of the matter is, God created everything, and it was good.

If the writers of the OT the science of the Big Bang, and all that happed, the early Jews and everyone would call them crazy. Science didn’t allow man to understand the Big Bang as we did today. Imo, The argument (that because the Bible doesnt mention by word the Big Bang, and therefore 6 days of creation is the only way) is a fallacy. It doesn’t take into account the scientific level of the early writers.

 

[Bohm_Bawerk]

If the writers of the OT the science of the Big Bang, and all that happed, the early Jews and everyone would call them crazy. Science didn’t allow man to understand the Big Bang as we did today. Imo, The argument (that because the Bible doesnt mention by word the Big Bang, and therefore 6 days of creation is the only way) is a fallacy. It doesn’t take into account the scientific level of the early writers.

Another interesting thing is that Catholics often forget that it was a Catholic priest who first developed the theory we now call the “Big Bang” .

 

[Berean2]

He isn’t lying, God explains things as people would understand them at that time.

How would changing the description of sequence to agree with Darwinism impede the Hebrews’ understanding?

 

[akasseb]

I would like to see the science that supports God putting a soul into any particular pair of human beings.

The study of the soul is not proper to science, but to philosophy and theology. Science studies empirical and measurable evidence about the natural world.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

My understanding is that in Hebrew, “Yom” can mean either 1) a day, as in Yom Kippur = The Day of Atonement or 2) an unspecified block of time, which could mean era, epoch, etc.

There is a Jewish apologist (his name escapes me) who wrote a book which claims that immense rate of expansion of the universe after the Big Bang would “slow down” the perception of time (like the famous example of a ship leaving the earth at a rate close to the speed of light, where shipboard time would seem normal to those on board the ship but would seem like centuries passing back on Earth.) I’m not sure if that would really work in terms of explaining Genesis, but it certainly illustrates that God’s Time is not the same as our Time.

How can we even say there is a “baseline” for the passage of time? We have to set the clocks differently on the satellites that beam satphone messages back to Earth because the passage of time is actually a couple of nanoseconds different in orbit from the passage of time on Earth, because the mass of the Earth warps time slightly, From an infinite perspective, which would be the perspective of the One who revealed the information in the first chapter of Genesis, who can say what time would look like?

 

[Bohm_Bawerk]

You know what intrigues me? The fact that I have not heard of a saint/mystic who speaks about this. They all claim to speak about Heaven, Hell or Purgatory, but they make no mention of asking God to settle this dispute.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

You know what intrigues me? The fact that I have not heard of a saint/mystic who speaks about this. They all claim to speak about Heaven, Hell or Purgatory, but they make no mention of asking God to settle this dispute.

Maybe it really isn’t important that it be settled. To try to create science out of Genesis makes about as much sense as trying to discover God through science. The wonders of God can be examined through science, but God cannot be measured.

Another interesting thing is that Catholics often forget that it was a Catholic priest who first developed the theory we now call the “Big Bang” .

Exactly.

What your literalist friends do not realize is that they are partly responsible for the rapid increase in atheism. Many people leave Christianity because they view it as intellectually void. But of course it isn’t!

I have a question for creationist literalists, that I’ve asked on other threads and never got a reasonable answer. Which literal creation story in Genesis it true, the one where plants were made before the animals, or vice versa?

For that matter, here’s one about Noah. How many pairs of each clean animal was Noah told to take on the ark? One, two, or seven? If it is literally true then it should be unambiguous and not self-contradictory.

Alan