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Prodigal_Son1
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I’m sorry, but the Pope and the Cardinal, are the ones that called on nations,governments, to provide everyone with healthcare, and I don’t think the federal government was excluded.
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Prodigal_Son1
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Why is everyone so upset? What is it about everyone having access to a universal healthcare in this country that is so upsetting? Higher taxes? What?
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Carlan
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You know I think it is that certain part of the human condition , basic selfishness and greed. You generally hear it from the " By heck I pulled myself up by my boot straps Gang"…What’s wrong with the rest of YOU’S"!
Peace, Carlan
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CMatt25
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Why? Do you have something to hide?
Along with sendng jobs overseas, technology is one of the reasons there aren’t jobs in this country. Always replacing workers by upping technology. A not so great way to help the US economy in my book.
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Dawnia
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It’s not the access to healthcare that’s the problem. It’s the government mandating everyone purchase insurance that’s the problem. Insurance doesn’t guarantee access. If doctors don’t accept the insurance you still have no access and you no longer have the extra cash to pay out of pocket.
Of course most of it boils down to the fact that trying to tell an American they have to do anything is asking for arguments.
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CMatt25
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That’s great if the collective “you’s” gave all of that. But when the “you’s” fall short and govt offers a role to help, it’s hard for me to believe Christ would decline any help for the poor and those in need of adequate healthcare. Render unto Caesar.
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CMatt25
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How many ex cathedra declarations have been made? Do you pay attention to anything said by the Pope not in ex cathedra?
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ishii
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You’re right. We should abolish the automobile so that the blacksmiths and stagecoach manufacturers can get their old jobs back. While were at it, lets eliminate self service at the gas station so that the old gas station attendants can get their jobs back that technology replaced.
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CMatt25
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Carlan, just as I was beginning to think there were no longer faithful Catholics who subscribe to my politics on the issue I was discussing, you come along and give me some hope! Thank you for that. I needed some hope. God bless you and peace be with you as well.Just had to say Matt,we may be at loggerheads on a couple of faith issuesbut I do love your politics
Peace, Carlan
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CMatt25
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As with Carlan, thank you Prodigal for this and your other posts on the thread. God bless.
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CMatt25
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Well I’m not upset about universal healthcare. But yes Prod, it appears to me taxes and government and what Carlan said about the human condition are factors.
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CMatt25
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Ishii, you mean like in the days when a gal of gas was < $1. I remember those days The attendant would even wash the windshield! Seriously though I like some technology as well as the next guy. Without it, I would never have met my good friend Ishii.
But besides greed, you don’t think technology has had an effect on the economy? We go to the bank and use a machine. We go to the airport and use a machine. We purchase tickets to an event and print them ourselves. You can go to Walmart and scan your groceries yourself. And on and on. That was my only point. That technology has had an impact on jobs. Yet those who can most afford to, don’t seem to want to pay higher taxes for any domestic govt programs. Not for healthcare, or to improve access to education, or what have you. People only seem to want cuts without additional revenue. So now what?
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bbarrick8383
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Yes, it has.
That same technology has also created numerous American jobs. That same technology has made stay at home moms millions of dollars.
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rlg94086
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That same technology has saved numerous lives AND driven up healthcare costs. Perhaps, CMatt25 is in favor of lowering healthcare costs by ridding the system of expensive technology and allowing more people to die like they used to?
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valentino
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thanks .I never heard that.I thought by law that hospitals had to accept sick patients regardless if they could pay or not.
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CMatt25
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That same technology has saved numerous lives AND driven up healthcare costs. Perhaps, CMatt25 is in favor of lowering healthcare costs by ridding the system of expensive technology and allowing more people to die like they used to?
I don’t recall him saying any such thing. He just made a point about technology and jobs.
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rlg94086
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Exactly…a narrow view, as bbarrick8383 and I are pointing out.
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CMatt25
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rlg94086
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Well argued!
No matter, healthcare technology improvement will greatly diminish once your single-payer system is in place. Just like Communism produced long lines for lower quality food, your favored system will produce long waits for inferior care.
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1holycatholic
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Where in Catholic social teaching can someone find the “cafeteria” option where they can ignore the principle of subsidiarity? If that’s not there then you’re saying the pope and a cardinal are flagrantly disregarding the social justice teaching of the Church by throwing the principle of subsidiarity under the bus.I’m sorry, but the Pope and the Cardinal, are the ones that called on nations,governments, to provide everyone with healthcare, and I don’t think the federal government was excluded.
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