4 killed at Waffle House

[Theo520]

Then you are open to stuff that the NRA is not open to.

Explain please, the NRA supports no guns for mentally ill people that have been properly adjudicated.

You however, seem to want to throw due process out the window, not require reasonable validation before your ‘person in charge’ just takes away their rights.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

No, I am in favor of exactly what you are in favor of - a temporary removal of guns followed by speedy due process at which time guns may be returned. Isn’t that what you described? The devil is in the details of “properly adjudicated”

 

[Theo520]

No, I am in favor of exactly what you are in favor of - a temporary removal of guns followed by speedy due process at which time guns may be returned. Isn’t that what you described? The devil is in the details of “properly adjudicated”

That’s how things currently work I believe, though I think there is variation across the country on the bar for initial removal.

Probably the adjudication process also needs some thoughtful revisions to improve and streamline.

 

[lilypadrees]

There’s a possibility the father will be arrested tonight for returning the guns to his son after promising the FBI that he would keep possession of them and wouldn’t give them back to his son. Because one of the guns was used in the Waffle House shootings, the father could be charged with accessory to a crime.

 

[JonNC]

I did. I posted in this thread that only the NRA can speak for the NRA.

I knew you were an honorable poster here. Sincerely

 

[JonNC]

As I’ve mentioned numerous times, I have provided it. You have chosen to ignore that and expect me to produce it every time I post on this topic.

Nope. Nothing from the NRA. Nothing.

 

[Raxus]

There’s a possibility the father will be arrested tonight for returning the guns to his son after promising the FBI that he would keep possession of them and wouldn’t give them back to his son. Because one of the guns was used in the Waffle House shootings, the father could be charged with accessory to a crime.

Probably wouldn’t be a bad thing if he was charged.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

There’s a possibility the father will be arrested tonight for returning the guns to his son after promising the FBI that he would keep possession of them and wouldn’t give them back to his son.

Is such a promise legally binding?

 

[JonNC]

That’s because I’ve provided it in the past and you can’t remember it. I don’t feel the need to go hunting on your demand, so go use search when you have time.

No, you haven’t. Nothing from the NRA. Not in any threads. I know because the NRAdoes not support or defend the abuse of firearms. The NRA supports keeping arms out of the hands of those who have been adjudicated as a threat to themselves and others. The NRA supports law enforcement following through on the laws already in place to do this.

 

[7_Sorrows]

i am really glad they caught the murderer!

 

[JonNC]

I see. So, you haven’t really searched very well and then claim I haven’t done what you haven’t really made a serious attempt to find.

You haven’t linked to anything from the NRA.

 

[Theo520]

Jon,
When the deflection is so blatant,
you just have recognize there is no sincerity to the debate and move on

 

[lilypadrees]

lilypadrees:

There’s a possibility the father will be arrested tonight for returning the guns to his son after promising the FBI that he would keep possession of them and wouldn’t give them back to his son.

Is such a promise legally binding?

Our local news says it is. He hasn’t broken any gun laws as far as TN is concerned but may’ve broken IL gun laws and of course, the FBI may have other laws that were broken or violated. It’s all being investigated since if the father hadn’t given his son those 4 guns back, it’s believed this tragedy wouldn’t have happened.

It came out that the shooter was in Nashville 2 days after the White House incident and has lived here longer than originally thought.

 

[JonNC]

I wouldn’t have to link to show it. Your search is incomplete.

Thank you for finally letting admitting it.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

Thank you for finally letting admitting it.

You do realize it is possible to copy text, right?

Your vocal animosity makes it necessary for you to provide a link. You have provided no proof of your claims.

 

[lilypadrees]

The shooter’s 2M bond has been revoked.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

It all raises questions for me on how we legally keep guns away from mentally ill.

But what do you do about people that become mentally ill while in the possession of firearms? When there is no periodic mental screening for current gun holders. Take the Las Vegas Shooter for example, I am assuming he became mentally ill at some point.

 

[Theo520]

But what do you do about people that become mentally ill while in the possession of firearms? When there is no periodic mental screening for current gun holders. Take the Las Vegas Shooter for example, I am assuming he became mentally ill at some point.

You could apply that logic to any area. We should all be mentally screened before handling cars etc etc.

There are flags with harmful mental illness, mass killing is rarely the first indicator. We just need to respond better to those red flags, something much more doable than pretending we can screen everyone.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

We just need to respond better to those red flags, something much more doable than pretending we can screen everyone.

Handle it the same way we handle Auto Insurance requirement when we go to get our tags renewed.

 

[Road-Worrier]

But what do you do about people that become mentally ill while in the possession of firearms? When there is no periodic mental screening for current gun holders. Take the Las Vegas Shooter for example, I am assuming he became mentally ill at some point.

You could apply that logic to any area. We should all be mentally screened before handling cars etc etc.

There are flags with harmful mental illness, mass killing is rarely the first indicator. We just need to respond better to those red flags, something much more doable than pretending we can screen everyone.

That doesn’t even consider the logistics of trying to periodically give a hundred plus million people professional mental evaluations.

Handle it the same way we handle Auto Insurance requirement when we go to get our tags renewed.

My auto insurance company has never asked me to take a mental screening before renewing my insurance, nor has the DMV before renewing my driver’s license. In fact, anymore, it all happens over the internet with no human contact required.