54 Answers from Bishop Fellay

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God, eternal shepherd, you tend your Church in many ways and rule us with love. You have chosen your servant, Bishop Fellay, to be a shepherd of your flock. Give him a spirit of courage and right judgment, a spirit of knowledge and love. By governing with fidelity those entrusted to his care, may he build your Church as a sign of salvation for the world. Amen.

Pax Christi
 
dmorgan said:
God, eternal shepherd, you tend your Church in many ways and rule us with love. You have chosen your servant, Bishop Fellay, to be a shepherd of your flock. Give him a spirit of courage and right judgment, a spirit of knowledge and love. By governing with fidelity those entrusted to his care, may he build your Church as a sign of salvation for the world. Amen.

Pax Christi
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Who approved this prayer?

Here is the approved prayer for the day and aniversary of the coronation of the pope:

O God, shepherd and ruler of all the faithful, look with favor upon Your servant pope Benedict, whom You willed to designate shepherd of Your Church; grant him, we beseech You, that by word and example he may so benefit those in his charge, that together with the flock committed to his care, he may attain life everlasting.
Through Jesus Christ, thy Son our Lord, Who liveth and reigneth with thee, in the unity of the Holy Ghost, ever one God, world without end.
R. Amen.
 
Lazlo my friend, I have said lots of prayers today that were not “approved” for today. I think you are sort of jumping to conclusions.
Cheers
 
corsair said:
Lazlo my friend, I have said lots of prayers today that were not “approved” for today. I think you are sort of jumping to conclusions.
Cheers
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I never heard previously from any Catholic man or women the expression ‘chosen servant’ for living person. The prayer of the church even address the pope as designate sheperd, we Catholics do not know who is ‘chosen’ until ones death.

When I was young and fresh and heard many similar for Stalin and Lenin. Later that was called personal cult.

I have a feeling that bishop Fellay himself would reject such form suspicious to personal cult related to himself.
 
laszlo said:
I never heard previously from any Catholic man or women the expression ‘chosen servant’ for living person. The prayer of the church even address the pope as designate sheperd, we Catholics do not know who is ‘chosen’ until ones death.

When I was young and fresh and heard many similar for Stalin and Lenin. Later that was called personal cult.

I have a feeling that bishop Fellay himself would reject such form suspicious to personal cult related to himself.
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So tell me Lazlo, how do you pray for your Bishop? What form of pray do you include for the clergy?

Pax Christi
 
Right at the beginning of the answers from Bishop Fellay he says this (emphasis mine):
But for us it is about something else: we hope to tell Rome what the Church has always taught and thereby to show the contradictions between this centuries-old teaching and what has been done in the Church since the Council.
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And therein lies the problem. Rome is the source of our unity, the Holy Father is the Vicar of Christ and head of the Magisterium. You don’t teach the Magisterium “what the Church has always taught” because the Magisterium does the authoritative teaching.
 
Just a little bit of a bias. This was one of the questions:

We might think that the Holy Father does not understand ecumenism in the same way as John Paul II. Isn’t this a difference in degree in the same error?
Since when do journalists stand as judge over the Holy Father?
 
pnewton said:
Just a little bit of a bias. This was one of the questions:

We might think that the Holy Father does not understand ecumenism in the same way as John Paul II. Isn’t this a difference in degree in the same error?
Since when do journalists stand as judge over the Holy Father?
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Good point. Irresponsible journalism. It’s stuffing words into someone else’s mouth and the one answering is trapped either way. In fact there are several other questions which fall into this category. It could be, however, that it was planned this way from the beginning too.
 
Nothing new here. SSPX is in the talks to tell the Pope what he is doing wrong, and telling Rome what they have to change.

IBTL (I bet thread lock.)
 
Bbigam said:
Right at the beginning of the answers from Bishop Fellay he says this (emphasis mine):
But for us it is about something else: **we hope to tell Rome what the Church has always taught **
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I was thinking exactly the same thing.

This seems, at least to me, to be very presumptious on the part of the SSPX.
While I understand the desire to hold onto tradition, part of our tradition is that the Pope makes the rules.

I live in a diocese where a priest, who had leanings way to the left of center, was removed from ministry, and his congregation broke away and formed their own church, *“in the catholic tradition” *(their words, not mine). They had “open communion”, married & women priests/deacons, performed marriages for same sex couples, etc. This “schism” , as it is called in my community, by all accounts, has been very difficult for our Bishop and some of our priests & lay people because they believe that what this community was doing was the right thing to do.

What I do not understand is how is what the SSPX is doing any different from this situation?

The people of this community believed with all their hearts, minds & souls that what they were doing was the right thing to do, just as I am sure that the people who belong to the SSPX do. But in the end, isn’t their disobedience born of the same idea, that they are right and the Magisterium in wrong? 🤷
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SaintGobban said:
Why is the article entitled “54 Answers” and there are only 27 answers? Are there pages missing from this article?

Thanks.
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This interview was released in 2 parts. This one is obviously the first half. Maybe the OP can provide a link to the 2nd half when it is posted. Assuming, of course, that this thread isn’t locked.
 
H.H. Pope BXVI said the same thing as H.E.Fellay. Perhaps the Magisterium needs to listen.
The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 – this must be quite clear to the Society. But some of those who put themselves forward as great defenders of the Council also need to be reminded that Vatican II embraces the entire doctrinal history of the Church. Anyone who wishes to be obedient to the Council has to accept the faith professed over the centuries, and cannot sever the roots from which the tree draws its life.
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blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/03/12/official-text-of-popes-letter-to-bishops-on-williamson-affair/
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How can we say the SSPX is wrong, when they are in agreement with the pope on this issue ?
 
dmorgan said:
God, eternal shepherd, you tend your Church in many ways and rule us with love. You have chosen your servant, Bishop Fellay, to be a shepherd of your flock. Give him a spirit of courage and right judgment, a spirit of knowledge and love. By governing with fidelity those entrusted to his care, may he build your Church as a sign of salvation for the world. Amen.

Pax Christi
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Amen Amen. Gloria Patri et Filio et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum Amen.

Bishop Fellay certainly doesn’t intend to “tell the Pope what he’s doing wrong.” That is a biased slant. No, the talks are centered around, at the end of the day, interpreting the Council according to Tradition, according to what has always been believed, everywhere and always.

Interesting how one can watch AB Sheen’s tv shows, or read his books, and come away with the opposite slant, when in all essentials the Bishop’s themes are quite similar to the Archbishop’s. I wonder if that’s why all the books I have of the Archbishop I purchased through the Society’s publishing house? And I noticed many of the same books are available through the Daughters of Saint Paul. Interesting.
 
I live in a diocese where a priest, who had leanings way to the left of center, was removed from ministry, and his congregation broke away and formed their own church, *“in the catholic tradition” *(their words, not mine). They had “open communion”, married & women priests/deacons, performed marriages for same sex couples, etc. This “schism” , as it is called in my community, by all accounts, has been very difficult for our Bishop and some of our priests & lay people because they believe that what this community was doing was the right thing to do.
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What I do not understand is how is what the SSPX is doing any different from this situation?
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The difference is one of setting precedence within the Catholic Church.

Canon Law protects old customs while innovations aren’t protected. And calling them “traditions” doesn’t work.
 
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