57 Years Mormon

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Yes I do understand. My Catholic wife and I have had similar conversations. It’s not an issue to me whether or not Mormons want to call themselves Christians or not. You can call a cat a dog if you want. I don’t care. The truth is all that matters.
 
May the Lord bless you abundantly. I hope the journey for you is blessed. Tere are many fo us RCIA Directors here, plus very well catechized posters from all walks of life here, so I think you will be happy. Welcome home. 😊
 
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Well, my reasons for leaving were personal. But basically, I started studying the history of Mormonism and realized that I had been lied to all my life. It made me quite angry, to be honest. I felt betrayed. I wandered for a couple of years and was at a point where I wasn’t even sure if there was a God. Over time, I felt my heart drawing me back. I attended several different churches, even giving the Mormons another chance. Then I walked into a Catholic mass with my wife and have never looked back. I can only say that the Spirit was there in ways I have never experienced in my 60+ years of living. I’m on my way home.
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I’m LDS and married to a Catholic woman, so I’ve ben studying the Catholic Faith for several hours per day for as long as I’ve known my wife which is about 7 years. I also My LDS faith very well, and have been comparing the two, and yes, I have looked into the many arguments against the LDS faith. After all this time I have come to a similar conclusion that you have, but from the other side. I can’t believe how anyone can believe in the Catholic Church. Catholics are leaving the church at a much faster rate than Mormons are leaving theirs. You found things in LDS history that made you fell like you were lied to? If you really study Catholic and early church history you will find that the CC does not proudly display all of its bad history either. I hope you will seek to really understand things like the brutal massacre of 20,000 men women and children “heretics” in a single town by order of the pope, and ask yourself would Jesus really allow HIS church to behave this way? The same Jesus who was treated that way by the dominant church of his day, condemned as a heretic and sentenced to death by crucifiction. You will see, if you really study, the horrible game of thrones behavior and the many big changes of the Catholic Church.
 
Perhaps I will learn things that I can’t reconcile. Perhaps I won’t. I study a lot so the truth is bound to surface. Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
You’re welcome.
I think you know, or I hope you know that the LDS church would always welcome you back and doesn’t consider you damned to burn in hell for eternity because you left, but believes you will spend eternity in some form of happiness or degree of heaven even if you never come back.
But I can tell you that if you ever leave the Catholic Church, your fate in their eyes will be to burn in hell forever.
I wish you well in your journey.
 
“… the brutal massacre of 20,000 men women and children “heretics” in a single town by order of the pope…”

You mean the crusade against the Cathars? The one that was fought by the king of France after decades of negotiations failed? Can you cite the Papal Bull which decreed the slaughter of those 20,000 people? I’d like to read it.
 
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Not quite accurate. The Church has never declared that anyone is in hell. It teaches what Jesus taught, that there are those who follow Christ and those who leave have put their souls in great peril.
 
I’m not sure that’s accurate. The Church doesn’t tell us who is in hell.
 
No, actually the LDS church would never welcome me back. I have too many questions 😎 You get excommunicated from the LDS church for asking too many questions. And I have lots!

I’ll take my chances, okay?
 
I had a psychology class once where the professor said there was a Papal Bull to kill witches. I looked up some Papal Bulls, it doesn’t exist.
 
I don’t know of any Bulls that command Catholics to go out and kill people. If there is, I would like to read it. I just don’t know of any.
 
“…ask yourself would Jesus really allow HIS church to behave this way?”

Behave what way? Do you mean like the Mountain Meadows Massacre? Like that way? I don’t think Jesus would approve of that at all. I’m sure He doesn’t approve of most of what people do, Catholics included.

I like to sum things up as simply as possible: People are, by and large, jerks. That’s why we need a Savior.
 
Or the Danites. Mormons are all sore about Missouri’s Extermination Order but conveniently leave out the part where the Danites first threatened to exterminate them.
 
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thedweh said:
I’m LDS and married to a Catholic woman, so I’ve ben studying the Catholic Faith for several hours per day for as long as I’ve known my wife which is about 7 years.
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You have studied the Catholic Faith for several hours everyday for seven years, but the rest of your post(s) don’t seem to support that claim.

About 45 years ago, when I was first introduced to Mormonism, I learned the Book of Mormon was not true as defined by Joseph Smith; therefore he was not a Prophet. I also knew that Jesus Christ would not keep the priesthood from a man because of his skin color. I also know that polygamy was never a teaching of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. I concluded that Mormonism was an invention, not a restoration. Therefore, I remain Catholic.
 
Praise God! The true Church is one that is difficult to join and easy to leave - the scriptures bear this out. Our Lord demanded sacrifice at the personal level to follow Him (i.e. Matthew 9:23, Mark 10:21), and allowed those who did not believe to simply walk away (i.e. John 6:66).
 
I as a Latter Day Saint do not agree with that at all ---- if you have questions with the desire to receive answers, you will get the answers. Now ---- they may not be the answers one wants to hear, nonetheless those are the answers they received.

I ask questions and will continue doing so as a active member.

For those who have left on their own or been excommunicated ---- it is still the Lord’s church and you are welcome to come back.
 
Hey Brother Gunther,
LDS CAFer here… Let me ask about your switch from a purely doctrinal stand point. Three principle doctrines in Catholicism (and I assume in all Orthodox Christianity) are:
  1. The is only one divine being in the universe
  2. God created everything from nothing (i.e., the doctrine of Creation ex-nihilo)
  3. the doctrine of the Trinity (one God in three persons consubstantial with each other)
Each of these doctrines is clearly contradicted by the Bible. I get it when someone says they’re tired of the Mormon Church and leaves, but I never get it when they then proceed to join a religion that contradicts the Bible on such fundamental topics. Perhaps since you’re just starting RCIA you haven’t had to deal with this yet. How do you justify assenting to these three doctrines? Thanks in advance.
 
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