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Roseeurekacross
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I am sure the OP and the rest of us would like you, in your own words, to point out where these contradictions are, in the Bible and why you believe they are.
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Stephen168
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The Mormon Church works hard to make their understanding of God fit with the Bible, but they do not, because they cannot, reject the Christian view by using the Bible.
Your claim that the Bible (taken as a whole) contradicts the Christian belief in the triune God is false.
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CourtingTex
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I am directed by the Holy Ghost so if that makes me a believer in the prophet Joseph Smith, great.
The church reminds me to be called a Latter Day Saint.
The church reminds me to be called a Latter Day Saint.
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adamhovey1988
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I don’t get the argument anyway, because Mormons believe the Bible was corrupted. So do Muslims, as a matter of fact Muslims claim that Muhammad was a prophet, and that Islam is a continuation of Christianity, Mormons claim that Joseph Smith is a prophet and that the Bible was corrupted, and that Catholics were responsible for it. I don’t get why I should be Mormon, when there are other religions that claim the exact same thing about scriptures being corrupted. What makes Mormonism correct compared to those groups?
Stephen168
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I think the Bible argument is a tool to get people to convert to Mormonism.
I could never be Mormon for the reasons I gave earlier:
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adamhovey1988
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I read the entire Bible all the way through once, although I’m doing it again and I’m currently in the Gospel of Luke, I have read the New Testament itself about three times all the way through. I have not seen anything in there, that indicates that Jesus was a polygamist, or that he was okay with polygamy. In fact, on this very Forum I’ve given Bible verses that say marriage is between one man and one woman.
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anon82300119
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Yeah, I wouldn’t mind at all.
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anon82300119
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The Book of Mormon condemns polygamy. The original version of the D&C condemned it. Then it was conveniently changed.
Joseph had at least 34 wives as the LDS church freely admits. It was as many as 40. Two were 14 years old (sound like Warren Jeffs?), eleven were already married to other men (polyandry), and then he had sisters, mother-daughters, and on and on. Most of his wives were secret. Even using the D&C as justification for his adultery doesn’t work because he violates the three requirements for polygamy.
This is not anti-Mormon stuff. This is easily verifiable from Mormon libraries.
Most Mormons are afraid of the truth. I have never known one that was willing to investigate the truth who remained in the Church. They are a rare breed.
I understand this, though. I was the same. I didn’t want my faith to be shattered. I had a lot invested in the Church. Escaping a cult is not easy.
Joseph had at least 34 wives as the LDS church freely admits. It was as many as 40. Two were 14 years old (sound like Warren Jeffs?), eleven were already married to other men (polyandry), and then he had sisters, mother-daughters, and on and on. Most of his wives were secret. Even using the D&C as justification for his adultery doesn’t work because he violates the three requirements for polygamy.
- The wife had to give her consent. Failed.
- The new wife had to be virgin. Failed.
- The new wife could not be given to anyone else. Failed.
This is not anti-Mormon stuff. This is easily verifiable from Mormon libraries.
Most Mormons are afraid of the truth. I have never known one that was willing to investigate the truth who remained in the Church. They are a rare breed.
I understand this, though. I was the same. I didn’t want my faith to be shattered. I had a lot invested in the Church. Escaping a cult is not easy.
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adamhovey1988
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If I may ask; is your family’s background Mormon? About how many of the Mormons you know are converts?
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pianistclare
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God bless you Jay, I hope your journey brings you peace. Welcome home. Again.
I guess I’ve seen it all. Mormons on a Catholic site defending Mormonism.
I’m out, muting this thread, but I wanted to say bless you one more time. You’re doing the right thing.
I guess I’ve seen it all. Mormons on a Catholic site defending Mormonism.
I’m out, muting this thread, but I wanted to say bless you one more time. You’re doing the right thing.
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adamhovey1988
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Hey, you know, the funny thing is, the Holy Ghost told me that Catholicism is true. And the Holy force told the JWs the same thing as the Holy Ghost told CourtingTex
www.catholic.com
Holy Spirit a Person, Not a Force
Jehovah’s Witnesses and certain other groups, such the Iglesia ni Cristo, claim that the Holy Spirit is not a Person but merely a force (for example, R...
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Ittybittykitty
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I recently left Mormonism myself. Ex-Mormon brofist! I know how hard it is to leave and wish you luck with RCIA and hope you find happiness.
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anon82300119
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Yeah, I come from a stock of Mormons. Several generations. I can’t think of an extended family member who is not an active Mormon. I’m the black sheep 
I have no idea how many Mormon converts I know. Over the years, I’ve gotten to know literally thousands of Mormons.
I have no idea how many Mormon converts I know. Over the years, I’ve gotten to know literally thousands of Mormons.
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anon82300119
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The Mormon Holy Ghost trumps your Holy Spirit. Don’t you know that already?
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adamhovey1988
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The Holy Ghost in Mormonism, as I understand it, is a god that hasn’t got flesh and bones…or something like that. Is that correct?
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anon82300119
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Correct. He’s the third member of the Godhead. God and Jesus are flesh and bone, but the Holy Ghost doesn’t have flesh and bone, but is a spirit. Well . . . depending on which version of the Godhead you use. Joseph Smith’s view of the nature of God was always changing. The Book of Mormon says that God is a spirit and that there is only one God. It says that Jesus is the Eternal Father. But Joseph Smith really never taught much from the Book of Mormon, anyway. It was his project at one time, but once he was done with it, he was basically done with it.
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adamhovey1988
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But…it’s the most correct book of any written…according to Smith himself. The Most Correct Book. May I ask, what made you decide to leave the LDS? Was it a lengthy process?
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anon82300119
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It was a very lengthy process. It started about 12-13 years before I actually left. I just started having a lot of doubts. Mormons usually bury their heads in the sand over difficult issues, particularly with regard to their own history. I have NEVER been one to read anti-Mormon literature, in fact, I was always the one who staunchly defended the Mormon Church.
Before my final exit, I gave an honest and sincere attempt to get a testimony of the Book of Mormon. I read it one last time over the course of about five weeks, starting each study with prayer and ending with prayer. I tested Moroni’s promise to study and ask with real intent to know if the Book of Mormon were NOT true. I received a pretty strong witness that it was not true.
My records were removed from the Church a few years ago. Even after that, and having moved away from all my friends and family, I decided that I wanted to get a fresh start in a new setting. Maybe I just needed to get a feel for it from a different perspective. I went to church and met with missionaries. It didn’t last long. There was nothing there. My soul was hollow with respect to the Mormon church.
I finally did what I had never done in my life. I studied Church history from strictly LDS publications. It was eye opening. I couldn’t believe half of what I read, so I studied more and more. The more I learned, the angrier I got. All the lies I had been told all my life. For a while, I drifted off the edge, almost embracing atheism. But the Spirit worked on me and drew me back. I attended a non-denominational Christian church. It was okay, but didn’t move my soul. I tried a Baptist church, then a Methodist church, then another Baptist church. Nothing clicked.
A few months ago, I entered a Catholic mass. There’s no description I can adequately give of the feelings that I had being there. Yeah, it was a little weird at first, but with each new week became a new breath of life. It’s been nothing but joy. We are NOT the Church of the Devil. And if we are, then send me to hell.
Before my final exit, I gave an honest and sincere attempt to get a testimony of the Book of Mormon. I read it one last time over the course of about five weeks, starting each study with prayer and ending with prayer. I tested Moroni’s promise to study and ask with real intent to know if the Book of Mormon were NOT true. I received a pretty strong witness that it was not true.
My records were removed from the Church a few years ago. Even after that, and having moved away from all my friends and family, I decided that I wanted to get a fresh start in a new setting. Maybe I just needed to get a feel for it from a different perspective. I went to church and met with missionaries. It didn’t last long. There was nothing there. My soul was hollow with respect to the Mormon church.
I finally did what I had never done in my life. I studied Church history from strictly LDS publications. It was eye opening. I couldn’t believe half of what I read, so I studied more and more. The more I learned, the angrier I got. All the lies I had been told all my life. For a while, I drifted off the edge, almost embracing atheism. But the Spirit worked on me and drew me back. I attended a non-denominational Christian church. It was okay, but didn’t move my soul. I tried a Baptist church, then a Methodist church, then another Baptist church. Nothing clicked.
A few months ago, I entered a Catholic mass. There’s no description I can adequately give of the feelings that I had being there. Yeah, it was a little weird at first, but with each new week became a new breath of life. It’s been nothing but joy. We are NOT the Church of the Devil. And if we are, then send me to hell.
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adamhovey1988
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Well, welcome. We Catholics aren’t perfect (and we know we aren’t). I actually have a book about Mormonism written by a former Mormon, he’s critical of Mormon beliefs, but quite charitable to Mormons themselves. Some of the people on CAF have read it, it’s called “Inside Mormonism”, by Isaiah Bennett. I’m going to suggest you take a look at it. He was not a Mormon for anywhere near as long as you were, so it’s from the point of view of a convert to Mormonism. He was a Catholic priest at one point, and is Catholic to this day, but has no active ministry, since he left to priesthood to become Mormon. I’ve read the book twice, and it is VERY well sourced.
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