7 things a Catholic Can Learn from Pride Month

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Every soul created has a place in the Church. But the LGBT movement its goals and its fruits are contrary to the truth.
 
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More grammar errors?

NCM thanks VV for the lesson on posting :).
 
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No, but that way you can just add the extra part instead of replying to yourself.
 
JMMJ said:
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I don’t know anyone like that.
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You do. You just don’t know it.

I was at a Church dinner one time and this older woman at the table says she doesn’t know one gay person. LOL. The young man sitting next to her was gay. Of course she didn’t know it. I caught his eye and we had a chuckle.

Gay people don’t always wear a stamp on their forward to let you know they are gay. I promise you, unless you don’t leave your house, you know gay people.
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I presumed that when someone says everyone knows someone that is gay, they meant that you actually know them as a friend or relative, not as some person at church or work that you don’t even know or speak to. To me, that doesn’t count.

I also do not know anyone that is gay. I am not sure why you would say “unless you don’t leave your house.” That is a bit judgmental.
 
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But the pride parade cannot be supported bc it is harmful… it is a movement that is a deception.
I hate to say this but i think the article itself is an attempt to censor the truth and guilt trip Catholics into silence by implying it’s not nice to reject what is both offensive to God and a threat to the salvation of many souls.
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She never suggests we go to the parades or support the movement. It is things she has thought of while reflecting on the powerful story of the man giving out dad hugs.

Her first paragraph, the first thing she says is she says " I stand by the Church’s teaching on traditional marriage. Full stop." Why does this read as a guilt trip to you? It’s more of a plea that while we are standing for unmovable truths and goodness we also see the depths of peoples pain and love them.
 
I had no knowledge of Father Judge’s SSA. However the Naudet brothers documentary on 9/11 in which they were there filming in the bottom of the North tower when the South tower collapsed gives a most beautiful example of a Catholic priest sheparding the flock. The footage shows Fr. Judge clearly mouthing prayers. I 1st thought he was praying for the souls of those jumping and audible in the footage (which I’ve been told was not suicide per se) then I thought maybe he was praying some sort of general absolution. Any thoughts?
 
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The other thing about Catholic Church seeming “More judgmental” is that society has changed so much. Society in general used to be on the same page as most teachings of the Catholic Church (and other churches), but now is in opposition on a lot of issues. So of course the Church seems strident and “more judgmental” than the 1940s, 1950s.
 
Does she say she stands by the church’s teaching on homosexuality and homosexual acts?
 
From what I have read about Fr. Mychal, he rushed to the scene immediately, since he was the fire department chaplain, and he told someone as he was rushing there that he had already done a general absolution for everybody in the buildings. So he got that done before he even got to the building.

It was reported that just before he was killed he was praying, “Lord, please end this now!”
 
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Does she say she stands by the church’s teaching on homosexuality and homosexual acts?
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I suppose I just assumed that she does stand by church teaching much as you are assuming she does not. She never crosses any lines of saying accept or celebrate sin.
 
Have you seen the Naudet Bro’s documentary?
Chief Pffeifer his Ladder Co. and other chiefs are assembled at the lobby desk. The filmaker pans left and Fr. Judge is standing there praying. Then the everything starts to shake and they run around a corner and up an escalator at which point the dust browns out the video. Within minutes they find Fr. Judge at the bottom of the escalator.
It’s a great documentary. It includes some of the only footage of the North tower strike.
 
Irishmom2 said:
I presumed that when someone says everyone knows someone that is gay, they meant that you actually know them as a friend or relative, not as some person at church or work that you don’t even know or speak to. To me, that doesn’t count.

I also do not know anyone that is gay. I am not sure why you would say “unless you don’t leave your house.” That is a bit judgmental.
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My own mother doesn’t know her granddaughter (my niece) is gay. She spends every holiday with her and the rest of the family. My point was that it is quite possible to know someone who is gay, without knowing they are gay.

My niece is “out”, but just not to grandma. Grandma isn’t very tolerant.
 
You may be right on my assumption. I don’t know that for sure. Although I have witnessed individuals active in the church calling for the church to bless same sex unions and gloating about leading a complaint campaign resulting in reassignment bc he dared to proclaim the churches teaching on homosexuality, homosexual acts and sacramental marriage from the pulpit. Her position was that there was no place in the church for the truth.
So I guess my personal opinion is that the Church needs to proclaim the truth first and foremost to the faithful and to the world.
 
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So I guess my personal opinion is that the Church needs to proclaim the truth first and foremost to the faithful and to the world.
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I don’t think anyone should disagree there.
 
I haven’t watched that one. There was a documentary on Fr. Judge that I believe I saw and also I watched the one on the Falling Man. Perhaps I’ll watch it another time. Working near Capitol Hill that day while my friend was getting killed at Sandler O’Neill, and then my husband and I taking a trip to NYC 4 days later because we’d already planned to go for his birthday and didn’t see any reason to change our plans (which was rather surreal as apparently a lot of other people didn’t want to be in Manhattan right then) is sometimes enough memories of 9/11 for me.
 
Are they the French documentary makers? If so, that is one of the best 9/11 documentaries I have seen. I was able to track it down to buy for my husband years ago, as he was very moved by it when he saw it.
 
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suicide and self harm- individuals who have undergone reassignment have much higher suicide risk.
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Against what comparison, though? The statistics tend to show that those with persistent gender dysphoria who don’t undergo reassignment have much higher rates of suicide than those who do. Both have significantly higher rates than those who don’t report gender dysphoria at all. And there have been no credible reports of long-term cures of gender dysphoria via traditional treatments.
 
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