7 things to watch at the CNN Republican debate

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What do you mean oversaw 9/11 attacks? I am thankful Bush was president when the attacks happened. We were safe during his 8 years in often! Look what Obama has created - both domestic and global terrorism.
Poor choice in verbs. How about “GW Bush was president when the 9/11 attacks occurred”? That’s what I met.

We weren’t safe during his 8 years because the attacks happened during those 8 years.

I must be missing the terrorists attacks inside the US leaving thousands dead when Obama was president.
 
What do you mean oversaw 9/11 attacks? I am thankful Bush was president when the attacks happened. We were safe during his 8 years in often! Look what Obama has created - both domestic and global terrorism.
BDS still afflicts many
 
My report card:

Moved up:

Carly Fiorina- sounded like an expert. She smoked Donald. I don’t know what debate the critics were watching. She took a quantum leap forward. Shame on ABC for showing such negative stills of her on the nightly news. Disgustingly shallow attempt to skew public opinion. Absolutely disgusting.

Ben Carson- was likeable, knowledgeable, and his voice is syrupy and erudite. Still doing well. Lack of political experience and details may harm him going forward. He should find and hire the persons who coached Rubio.

Rand Paul: Independents and those in the middle who believe in true freedom and are anti-war will find him attractive, which might make him most electable. The establishment media definitely hates him, which is all the more reason for us to think for ourselves.

Huckabee- Likeable, traditional American values. Might be acceptable to progressives if there was population control. Trump has probably hurt him the most.

Santorum- called attention to how Republicans are only focused on business owners and not those who work for those businesses. Great point. They didn’t allow him to win Iowa on opening night last time, so there’s no way in hell they’re going to allow him to win, but they should at least let him make the valid points instead of Trump. The guy has heart, even if you don’t agree with him.

Rubio- his details sounded like he really did his homework

Neutral:

Kasich: lots of hype for himself, but not dynamic enough. The Establishment would love him.

Christie- another typical establishment candidate

Moved Lower:

Bush- I just don’t understand how the media can say he did well unless he’s a puppet of The Establishment.

Walker- fiery leadership quality, would probably shine if they were down to a choice of 2 candidates, just not seen and heard enough, although it seems he would not have much uniqueness or substance if he did speak up

Cruz- I wish he did better, just not seeing him as a true conservative with his wife on wall street, sounds too fake, looks like a poser
 
My report card:

Moved up:

Carly Fiorina- sounded like an expert. She smoked Donald. I don’t know what debate the critics were watching. She took a quantum leap forward. Shame on ABC for showing such negative stills of her on the nightly news. Disgustingly shallow attempt to skew public opinion. Absolutely disgusting.

Ben Carson- was likeable, knowledgeable, and his voice is syrupy and erudite. Still doing well. Lack of political experience and details may harm him going forward. He should find and hire the persons who coached Rubio.

Rand Paul: Independents and those in the middle who believe in true freedom and are anti-war will find him attractive, which might make him most electable. The establishment media definitely hates him, which is all the more reason for us to think for ourselves.

Huckabee- Likeable, traditional American values. Might be acceptable to progressives if there was population control. Trump has probably hurt him the most.

Santorum- called attention to how Republicans are only focused on business owners and not those who work for those businesses. Great point. They didn’t allow him to win Iowa on opening night last time, so there’s no way in hell they’re going to allow him to win, but they should at least let him make the valid points instead of Trump. The guy has heart, even if you don’t agree with him.

Rubio- his details sounded like he really did his homework

Neutral:

Kasich: lots of hype for himself, but not dynamic enough. The Establishment would love him.

Christie- another typical establishment candidate

Moved Lower:

Bush- I just don’t understand how the media can say he did well unless he’s a puppet of The Establishment.

Walker- fiery leadership quality, would probably shine if they were down to a choice of 2 candidates, just not seen and heard enough, although it seems he would not have much uniqueness or substance if he did speak up

Cruz- I wish he did better, just not seeing him as a true conservative with his wife on wall street, sounds too fake, looks like a poser
I don’t watch the mainstream news,so I am not aware of the number ABC did on CF. however,my thoughts are they must be quaking in their boots in the Hillary camp.I would live to see Carly Fiorena mop the floor with Hillary Clinton in a debate !👍
 
My report card:

Moved up:

Carly Fiorina- sounded like an expert. She smoked Donald. I don’t know what debate the critics were watching. She took a quantum leap forward. Shame on ABC for showing such negative stills of her on the nightly news. Disgustingly shallow attempt to skew public opinion. Absolutely disgusting.

Ben Carson- was likeable, knowledgeable, and his voice is syrupy and erudite. Still doing well. Lack of political experience and details may harm him going forward. He should find and hire the persons who coached Rubio.

Rand Paul: Independents and those in the middle who believe in true freedom and are anti-war will find him attractive, which might make him most electable. The establishment media definitely hates him, which is all the more reason for us to think for ourselves.

Huckabee- Likeable, traditional American values. Might be acceptable to progressives if there was population control. Trump has probably hurt him the most.

Santorum- called attention to how Republicans are only focused on business owners and not those who work for those businesses. Great point. They didn’t allow him to win Iowa on opening night last time, so there’s no way in hell they’re going to allow him to win, but they should at least let him make the valid points instead of Trump. The guy has heart, even if you don’t agree with him.

Rubio- his details sounded like he really did his homework

Neutral:

Kasich: lots of hype for himself, but not dynamic enough. The Establishment would love him.

Christie- another typical establishment candidate

Moved Lower:

Bush- I just don’t understand how the media can say he did well unless he’s a puppet of The Establishment.

Walker- fiery leadership quality, would probably shine if they were down to a choice of 2 candidates, just not seen and heard enough, although it seems he would not have much uniqueness or substance if he did speak up

Cruz- I wish he did better, just not seeing him as a true conservative with his wife on wall street, sounds too fake, looks like a poser
I think the trouble with Governor Kasich is how to stand out when you have 11 people on the stage and moderators are looking for everyone to fight one another. This debate works poorly for him and Senator Rubio who are more measured and less fiery (or obnoxious) and frankly, in line with traditional Republican thinking.

My take is that Trump and Carson will be around for a while. The establishment group will narrow down to two or so and then it’ll be interesting.

I also think that Senator Paul has a bad draw. He’s an anti-establishment establishment guy being an actual Senator when the Republican voters seem to look for guys with no experience (Carson/Trump/Fiorina).
 
Bush- I just don’t understand how the media can say he did well unless he’s a puppet of The Establishment.
We all have our opinions. I thought he did very well, but then I never was much into charisma. It has not been a good measure of leaders in my lifetime.
 
Poor choice in verbs. How about “GW Bush was president when the 9/11 attacks occurred”? That’s what I met.

We weren’t safe during his 8 years because the attacks happened during those 8 years.

I must be missing the terrorists attacks inside the US leaving thousands dead when Obama was president.
There weren’t thousands dead (I think only three), but hundreds were injured and could have been killed during the Boston Marathon. We has on soldier killed at a recruitment center in Arkansas. Thirteen were killed at Ft. Hood.

Just to refresh your memory.
 
Carly Fiorina- sounded like an expert. She smoked Donald.
I don’t like Fiorina. First of all, they complain because Trump mentioned something about her looks. But why was it OK when Fiorina attacked how Barbara Boxer looked in 2010? It seems hypocritical for her to attack the way Barbara Boxer looked, but it is not OK for Trump to do the same to her.
Further, she seemed very scripted and inauthentic. She memorized her lines all right, but she seems to me to be just repeating what someone else told her to say. And she comes across as very rude, interrupting everyone as she pleases. The facts show that she was a total disaster at HP, with the HP shares losing 42%. As soon as they fired her, the stock jumped up 7%. And how many HP workers did she fire? Was it 30,000?
In an article about worst CEOs in USA Today in 2005, Yale business Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld said that Fiorina was the worst CEO “because of her ruthless attack on the essence of this great company. … She destroyed half the wealth of her investors and yet still earned almost $100 million in total payments for this destructive reign of terror.”
Can you see her as President of the USA? I suspect that the establishment is building her up to attack Trump who they do not want to be President. But they don’t want Fiorina either. I think they want Bush or some other moderate candidate.
 
There weren’t thousands dead (I think only three), but hundreds were injured and could have been killed during the Boston Marathon. We has on soldier killed at a recruitment center in Arkansas. Thirteen were killed at Ft. Hood.

Just to refresh your memory.
Five. Well, that’s close to 3000.

Thanks for refreshing my memory.
 
she seemed very scripted and inauthentic. She memorized her lines all right, but she seems to me to be just repeating what someone else told her to say.
I didn’t know about the Boxer incident, so no, that wasn’t right.

President Obama does his share of reading teleprompters. Just sayin.

Trump filed for bankruptcy 4 times, so anyone can have a failed venture. How did she rise enough to be considered for HP if she was not qualified? It sounds like cherry picking her one negative. If she had a string of them, I’d be worried.

If those who know her outside of the HP tenure think she is a poor leader then let them speak.

Toyota developed a hydrogen fuel cell and fracking created a boom in natural gas vehicles, jobs and revenues, so the Saudis had no choice but to cut the price of gas in half. All of these will eventually save the economy.
 
I didn’t know about the Boxer incident, so no, that wasn’t right.

President Obama does his share of reading teleprompters. Just sayin.

Trump filed for bankruptcy 4 times, so anyone can have a failed venture. How did she rise enough to be considered for HP if she was not qualified? It sounds like cherry picking her one negative. If she had a string of them, I’d be worried.

If those who know her outside of the HP tenure think she is a poor leader then let them speak.

Toyota developed a hydrogen fuel cell and fracking created a boom in natural gas vehicles, jobs and revenues, so the Saudis had no choice but to cut the price of gas in half. All of these will eventually save the economy.
One negative? She tanked an iconic company. And she was never hired for a CEO (or, for that matter, any job) ever again. If she was any good, someone else would have given her a chance. No one did.

Excuse me for not wanting her to tank the United States.
 
Five. Well, that’s close to 3000.

Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Perhaps I did not understand your point. After 9-11, we did not have another Islamic terrorist attack while Bush was president. We had 3 during Obama’s term. It is may or may not be significant, but it did happen that way.
 
Poor choice in verbs. How about “GW Bush was president when the 9/11 attacks occurred”? That’s what I met.

We weren’t safe during his 8 years because the attacks happened during those 8 years.

I must be missing the terrorists attacks inside the US leaving thousands dead when Obama was president.
I didn’t say there were terrorist attacks in the U.S. that have left thousands dead, but there have been random attacks throughout the country which the Obama administration has been reluctant to calling acts of teeeorism. And GW kept us safe after 9/11. They know Obama is a weak president so the world has been less safe since Bush left office and Obama was elected. A terrorist attack can kill one person or two persons or ten or 20 or 50. It doesn’t have to be thousands to be called a terrorist attack. Remember the Boston Marathon bombing and the soldiers killed at the military base in Texas? I wish I could list every single attack. There have been plenty.
 
One negative? She tanked an iconic company. And she was never hired for a CEO (or, for that matter, any job) ever again. If she was any good, someone else would have given her a chance. No one did.

Excuse me for not wanting her to tank the United States.
yeah Obama has come close to doing that already!
 
where did you come up with 3000?
911 is being discussed, remember that guy named Osama Bin Laden who the Clintons let go and 911 happened I guess, about 9 months after Bush took office. If anyone wants to say that was Bush’s fault, they can but I think that is grossly unfair. Gutted Security allowed that to happen.
 
yeah Obama has come close to doing that already!
Sure he has. I think this is why some people see the debate so differently than I do. President GW Bush was a historically awful president, yet somehow people have convinced themselves that the historically awful president is Obama. He isn’t that bad. He isn’t that great either, but the fact is you have 11 candidates on-stage and 8 are basically still saying that the Iraq War was a good idea. They’ve learned nothing and that really damages them in the general election.
 
The man is so obnoxious and up his own “you-know-what”.

I hate the idea that Christians, any Christian, would like to reward such a publically un-Christlike individual with the position of POTUS.

He doesn’t deserve it. Simple as that. I find him to be odiously foul-mouthed, bigoted, sexist, racist, uncouth, big-headed, lacking in any humility and frankly disgusting to behold in every way.

When up against a lady of style and substance like Carly Fiorina or the young, dashing and charismatic Latin Rubio…how could anyone possibly choose Trump over them? Sheer madness. :eek:
For the entertainment value.
 
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