73 books vs 66 books

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HOW, Did they decide what was/wasn’t inspired, what to include/exclude?
The Church looked at the consistency to the Apostolic faith handed down and whether the writing was written by an apostle or one that knew the apostles. An indicator of the above was what books were being read at Mass.

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Yeah not to mention the symbolism of the Protestant bible having 66 books. The number 6 is not a good number and is too similar to 666. That right there is a sign. Not saying Protestants are the antichrist or anything I’m just talking about the number itself and having 66 books in the Bible is not a good sign. 7 is the number of perfection. 70-something books is a better sign. 👍 7 the number of perfection and 3 for the Trinity. 🙂
I am just watching The Big Bang Theory (Repeat). Sheldon is wearing a tee shirt with a circle and the number 73 in it. I immediately thought, “Now that is why we have 73 books in the bible”.
 
Robo, see my cross outs in your text above.

It’s a Catholic book. All who wrote it and compiled it were Catholics.
I agree…and disagree…

NT-yes entirely thanks to early Catholic Church
OT-existed prior to Christ, is the Torah of modern day Judaism. Written before Catholic Church existed. Catholic church is entirely responsible for its preservation, though. Judaism itself may not exist if it weren’t for the Catholic church. Just my opinion…
 
I agree…and disagree…

NT-yes entirely thanks to early Catholic Church
OT-existed prior to Christ, is the Torah of modern day Judaism. Written before Catholic Church existed. Catholic church is entirely responsible for its preservation, though. Judaism itself may not exist if it weren’t for the Catholic church. Just my opinion…
Yes, thank you, the NT written by Catholics. But the Catholic Church discerned which OT books were inspired and inerrant. We do owe the Jewish faith much in preserving the OT books.

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The Church looked at the consistency to the Apostolic faith handed down and whether the writing was written by an apostle or one that knew the apostles. An indicator of the above was what books were being read at Mass.

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So all the NT was either written by the Apostles or someone who knew the Apostles?
 
So all the NT was either written by th a Apostles or someone who knew th a Apostles?
Yes, it is almost entirely Apostles writings (Peter, John, James, Matthew, Paul). A couple exceptions being Luke/Acts written by Luke who was a close associate and Mark who was a close associate of Peter. Hebrews is unknown as to authorship, perhaps Paul, maybe another Apostolic period person, I like the theory it was Priscilla and her name left off due to her being female.
 
To tie this with another thread, then is it safe to say that the Gnostics and the “Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” is rejected because it wasn’t written by the Apostles or those taught be the Apostles?
 
To tie this with another thread, then is it safe to say that the Gnostics and the “Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” is rejected because it wasn’t written by the Apostles or those taught be the Apostles?
Yes, and because it is contrary to the deposit of faith which the church holds as true.
 
The question should be:

Why do Protestant Bibles have less books than Catholic and Orthodox Bibles?
Yes, agreed. And it makes the answer much clearer and simpler to say:

Because Martin Luther removed them. He actually also classified the New Testament books in three categories: Books of God’s salvation, Canonical and Non-canonical. It’s speculated that he was planning on removing the new testament non-canonical books as well, but that’s not known for sure.

To me, it shows arrogance. 1500 years of Christianity is apparently not as important as his opinion in regards to Scripture.
 
=catholicscot;11854781]I think that from the Reformers POV the Deuterocanonical books contained a number of embarrassingly Catholic doctrines, such as praying for the dead, so they looked for any old excuse to ditch them and seized on the fact of them having been originally written in Greek. Notwithstanding which they continued to make use of them for some time, you can see this for example in the Book of Homilies which were mandatory reading in the Church of England in the 16th Century.
Having recently read some of the DC books, and Luther’s prefaces to them, I would respectfully disagree with your cause and effect. Luther had a great fondness for a number of the DC books, not the least of which being 1 Macc. He used them in his writings and preaching long into his life.
The charge that he excluded them was because of doctrine is often repeated, but there is nothing in Sirach, Tobit, Ecclesiasticus, Wisdom, Baruch, 1 Macc. that is particularly offensive to Lutheran ears.
Luther is clear in his prefaces regarding his understanding of their canonicity, and he references the “ancients” often.
Luther in general had a fairly cavalier attitude to Scripture that did not agree with his doctrines as we can see from his preface to St James
Luther was in no way cavalier, but he was willing to express his views, not unlike many before him regarding, in particular, James. And oddly enough, he continued to preach from James, as well
Incidentally, I think those without the Deuterocanonical texts lose out on some cracking good stories like that of Tobit, Bel and the Dragon and Judith and Holofernes about whom my last blog is written-
I absolutely agree. I strongly recommend the Prayer of Manasseh, as well, particularly during Lent.

Jon
 
Are you not equally concerned about the supposed errors in the undisputed books of the Bible? Why should you be concerned about the supposed errors in the disputed seven books and not concerned about the supposed errors in the undisputed books of the Bible? To me, it sounds like you are using a double standard.
 
I have concern about the 7 extra books. I notice there are flaws in them, so what should i do?

like
carm.org/errors-apocrypha

it comes down to savlation and not going to hell
The books are not “extra”; they have always been a part of the Bible. Certain reformers, during the protestant reformation, kicked them out of the cannon, because they sounded too Catholic. They are just as true and reliable as the rest of the Bible. You might want to read, “Where We Got The Bible”, by The Right Rev. Henry G. Graham (a protestant minister) for a history of the Bible.
 
I have concern about the 7 extra books. I notice there are flaws in them, so what should i do?

like
carm.org/errors-apocrypha

it comes down to savlation and not going to hell
Even from a Lutheran perspective, these books are not “extras”. They are an important part of our history, of understanding parts of the OT, etc.

If the existence of “flaws”, or lack thereof, determined what was canonical, The Didache, the Prayer of Manasseh, and some others belong in scripture.

Jon
 
I have concern about the 7 extra books. I notice there are flaws in them, so what should i do?

like
carm.org/errors-apocrypha

it comes down to savlation and not going to hell
One complaint is the fish heart on the flames driving away evil spirits. It is an unusual method, but consider how the Lord healed a blind man.

"When he had said these things, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and spread the clay on his eyes, And said to him: Go, wash in the pool of Siloe, which is interpreted, Sent. He went therefore, and washed, and he came seeing. The neighbours therefore, and they who had seen him before that he was a beggar, said: Is not this he that sat and begged? Some said: This is he. But others said: No, but he is like him. But he said: I am he. They said therefore to him: How were thy eyes opened? (John 9: 6 -10)

Did he use witchcraft by using his spit and mud to heal this man’s eyes?😃
 
I have concern about the 7 extra books. I notice there are flaws in them, so what should i do?

like
carm.org/errors-apocrypha

it comes down to savlation and not going to hell
What should you do?
  1. don’t blindly take the word of a rabidly anti-Catholic site.
  2. learn the truth about the origins of the Bible – those book are NOT “extra.”
  3. ask a specific question about a specific concern.
 
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