9-Mar-11 - 600 ANGLICANS PREPARE TO ENTER ORDINARIATE [EWTN]

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Finally people realize that God’s real church wasn’t intended to be founded in “England.”
Gurney, would you please bring me my bow of burning gold? And while you’re at it, my arrows of desire?

“I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand/ Till we have built Jerusalem in England’s green and pleasant land.” 😉
 
I would like to ask my fellow Episcopalians how many Episcopal priests they personally know who were once Roman Catholic. I can think of two in my diocese, at least.

The road between Rome and Canterbury travels in both directions.
The former priest at my parish was once Roman Catholic, but he was never a Catholic priest. I don’t personally know any others, although there may be some I’m not aware of.
 
Gurney, would you please bring me my bow of burning gold? And while you’re at it, my arrows of desire?

“I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand/ Till we have built Jerusalem in England’s green and pleasant land.” 😉
Good show, Masuwerte.

Absolutely gorgeous melody to this song/hymn, “Jerusalem”. Listen to it, y’all, on iTunes. Words are a little far out, but what isn’t ? 😉
 
The problem is multifold, and your logic is flawed.

In many cases, the perpetrators are dead. We, the faithful, are the ones paying, not the priest-offenders, via the Chancery’s coffers.

Even when still alive, the vast majority of these men convicted are indigent aside from their pittance of a retirement. Again, the church pays in their stead.

The bishops who did most of the provable coverups are dead. I suspect they wish they’d had an anchor-induced dive instead of a bishopric… but the mortal courts have no sway over them.

In some cases, the church settles to get it out of the press, despite prosecutors breaking the law and/or suborning perjury. (An Anchorage retired Monsignor was sued under the recovered memory exception, but the suit was not dropped when it was revealed that the “victim” had in fact filed criminal complaint at the time of the supposed molestation, and been found to have been non-credible, and no evidence was available at the time; the recovered memory statute does not allow for refiling 20 years later when the complaint was unprosecutable at the time for lack of evidence. Now, while said monsignor DID provide alcohol to underage individuals, myself included, I’ve never seen any evidence that he molested anyone. Oh, and the original claim? Made after Monsignor dismissed him from serving; apparent sour grapes.) The press treated Monsignor as if guilty from the accusation.

Further, the press avoids the even more prolific protestant sexual abuse issue… the very same sources treated a police officer as “alleged” and sowed doubt whilst he was being tried for rape by abuse of authority… following his dismissal for cause for same… but had implied that Monsignor had been a sexual predator before a trial judge had even been scheduled! “The priest who abused him was not available for comment.”

Now, Gurney, the press is pursuing an anti-catholic agenda openly, and you are praising them for it?
These cases were ignored for years, notably involving the deaf boys’ school in Milwaukee, so that when the cases–200 plus of them–did come to light, the archbishops who ignored them were dead. Many of the perps and those who sheltered or ignored them were/are dead for these reasons. This does not invalidate their crimes. The Roman Catholic Church has a very long memory and to invoke some sort of statute of limitations on these crimes is disingenuous.

It is my understanding that dioceses have paid through selling off of church properties, which are often very valuable, as they were purchased decades ago and are on very valuable commercially zoned land. Many of these properties are churches with dwindling attendance which would have been sold anyway. However, eight diocese/archdioceses have gone into bankruptcy. But in most cases the lay congregations have not paid for the abuse cases.

Many of the perps in Ireland are dead, also, as the abuse went on for many decades and destroyed thousands of lives. The abuse, sexual and non-sexual, involving boys and girls, was flagrant and grossly criminal.

It is also disingenuous (ie., less than honest) to invoke the individual circumstances of a single incident. There are thousands of incidents. Many, especially in Europe, have yet to come to light, but they will.
 
It’s late here and all I have to say is “HUH?” :confused:😛
Gurney, would you please bring me my bow of burning gold? And while you’re at it, my arrows of desire?

“I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand/ Till we have built Jerusalem in England’s green and pleasant land.” 😉
 
Are you going to clue me in or bask in my ignorance…enlighten me. Have I not memorized Beowulf or something? LOL
Ah, Gurney, if only you had learned, somewhere along the way, to embrace the Anglo-Saxon portion of your heritage.
 
It’s from William Blake’s poem, “The New Jerusalem.” Later set to music as “The Jerusalem Hymn,” sometimes called England’s second national anthem. Worth a look on youtube, really. 🙂
 
Now how on earth could I have missed that! :rolleyes::D:p
It’s from William Blake’s poem, “The New Jerusalem.” Later set to music as “The Jerusalem Hymn,” sometimes called England’s second national anthem. Worth a look on youtube, really. 🙂
 
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