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Eufrosnia;10111572]These are indeed some I use too. But I always have to make sure they sometimes understand that I am not doing Theology at that juncture as I quote but simply using it as a narrative. Because as soon as you quote Scripture, people tend to think its theology.
Yes, and the beliefs themselves can be traced back the same way a Catholic would. Interestingly, the Orthodox have missing concepts, similar to the Jews rather than arbitrary concepts. Both can trace what they have to a point of reasonable assent. But they just have difficulty going the full mile and accepting everything.
At least that is how I have come to see it![]()
I totally agree.Yes, but again, we have to be careful when using Scripture. Once we enter Theology, it is a never ending debate of interpretation. So I find that historical approach works best (quoting Church fathers and if available, secular sources) because then its not much of an interpretation issue. But those passages can certainly get the job done too![]()
Well, to be honest, most of my work dealt with finding a reasonable approach itself. The biggest issue for me was in convincing my non-Catholic friends, especially Atheists to embrace Catholicism. There are of course those who are just not looking for the truth. Those you cannot help. But there are those who are looking/open but just can’t see reasons. Sometimes they ask valid questions and I found myself sympathizing with them. So it is a search for a way to convey reasons for embracing Catholicism that lead me down this path.
In this sense, I usually tend to quote from other compiled listsFor one thing, I always forget them off the top of my head. Even the Apostolic Succession ones, I have the passages listed so I can quickly refer.
So the lists I used for Primacy are from these places
Look under the section “Primacy of the Roman See”. Those you might have already seen.
Oh and I also use these points (specifically when discussing with Orthodox)
Bob Stanley has an awesome site, in terms of factual knowledge and apologetics; check it out when you get the chance:I find his blog very useful on this issue. The stuff he has on Canons is actually very useful (at least in my experience).
home.inreach.com/bstanley/
