A Catholic Look at Mormanism

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Absolutely! Because I was immersed for so long in the LDS religion while taking my step-children to their services, I was approached to be converted many, many times (I even attended “Relief Society” which is their group for women.) They would talk about things like “the lost keys” and there was nothing I could do but smile politely. They were so wrong on so many points. They simply don’t understand the true basis of the Catholic religion. They do make an interesting point about Jesus visiting other parts of the world, though. Interesting is as far as that goes, though.
 
He did not have to travel very far as he was the greatest sales person on earth with the absolute greatest message. He gave us the Mass, missionaries with the Spirit of God helped do the rest of the spreading of the gospel. I have seen many return to the Catholic Church here in Utah after their Mormon experience. 14 years helping with the RCIA. They come back older, wiser and many a powerhouse for our Lord. Put it in Gods hands…then pray. Allow your son to find his way. Just give him tons of love.

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chepner3 said:
Absolutely! Because I was immersed for so long in the LDS religion while taking my step-children to their services, I was approached to be converted many, many times (I even attended “Relief Society” which is their group for women.) They would talk about things like “the lost keys” and there was nothing I could do but smile politely. They were so wrong on so many points. They simply don’t understand the true basis of the Catholic religion. They do make an interesting point about Jesus visiting other parts of the world, though. Interesting is as far as that goes, though.
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Ive been a non believing Mormon for almost two years now but still attend church there to keep harmony in my home. It’s funny how those Catholic teachings (ex: perpetual virginity of Mary, Jesus had no brothers and sisters, etc) bleed into my thinking. Mormons have a unique but incorrect way of framing everything in LDS terms all the way from before Adam and Eve to the current day
 
PaulDupre said:
they were from a 6th-generation high-ranking Mormon family and she was not.

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They are a highly stratified organization, almost like a Ponzi scheme. Their caste system clearly includes ancestry. Such beliefs are entirely in conflict with Christianity. Men as Gods. :frighten:
 
Jerusha said:
They are a highly stratified organization, almost like a Ponzi scheme. Their caste system clearly includes ancestry. Such beliefs are entirely in conflict with Christianity. Men as Gods. :frighten:
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Jerusha,
Please explain CCC 460 using official sources from the magisterium

Other posters here have only been able to give me their opinion,
explaining that the Pope made a mistake in his word choice.(?)
 
Tony888 said:
Jerusha,
Please explain CCC 460 using official sources from the magisterium

Other posters here have only been able to give me their opinion,
explaining that the Pope made a mistake in his word choice.(?)
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Are you saying that the source of what I posted when I gave my explanation of how we become sanctified (as referenced in CCC 460), by quoting official Catholic teaching on Sanctifying Grace from newadvent.org wasn’t official, Tony? New Advent happens to be a very reliable Catholic website that has many official documents posted, including the Catholic Encyclopedia. That page that I posted from is directly quoted from an article in the Catholic Encyclopedia, complete with: Ecclesiastical approbation. Nihil Obstat. September 1, 1909. Remy Lafort, Censor. Imprimatur. +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York. I even posted that for you, as well as all of the other references provided at the bottom of the page, specifically so there would be no question about it being ‘official Church teaching’.

How much more official does it have to be for you to accept it as ‘official’ Catholic teaching or sources? Would you like the Pope to send you a handwritten statement before you’ll accept it as ‘official’? (Don’t hold your breath for that one.) Unlike your church, the Catholic Church doesn’t have revolving doctrines or dogma that change with every new Pope that takes his position as the spiritual leader of the Church. Our beliefs don’t change with the ways and currents of the times, just for convenience or to make people happy. We have to answer to God for our beliefs, so we don’t play fast and loose with His teachings that never change.
 
chepner3 said:
They do make an interesting point about Jesus visiting other parts of the world, though. Interesting is as far as that goes, though.
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Why don’t we hear of Jesus visiting Australia, for instance? Were the native people there not worthy? Jesus gave his Church the mission of preaching the gospel to the whole world. It is through his Church, the Catholic Church, that he visits the entire world.
 
Susie, my heart goes out to you. My son (who is 31 now) started attending a Mormon church because that is what his girlfriend is. He started attending 2 years ago, then joined this past summer. He called my grandsons mother, asked for her permission for my grandson to be baptized, she declined, stating that had been done when he was little, and didn’t see the need for it to be done again. (She was very polite without bringing the reasons she wanted to say no way in H####!!! ) He called back in October and said my grandson was going to be baptized Mormon whether she agreed or not. So, he was. My former daughter in law did attend, only to support my grandson,( who is 7 and doesn’t understand the differences of religion) and , as she says, pray hard. My son has had no contact with his side of the family (both his fathers and mine) since 4 months prior to his baptism, (which is a mix of Catholic, Orthodox, Angelican, Southern Baptist,Lutheran and non-denom,), due to the advice of one of the elders of the Mormon church. When he first started attending, I asked him if he really understood what the difference in the theology between the Mormons and the rest of families Christian beliefs were and why. He told me that no one really knows which church God is behind, and it’s all man made laws for the respective churches, so no one really knows. He also said he was tired of being brain washed by all the “traditional” Christians in the family, how could we all get along being different christian denominations and call Mormons not christian, he can worship God in anyway he wants, and he is just as Christian as anyone else in the family. When the subject of his baptism came up, I asked him why he needed to do it again, since he had already been baptized (Lutheran). If they were truly a Christian church, they would not require a Christian to be re-baptize who had already had a trinitaran baptism. he stated all churches have different rules to be a member, this was one of theirs, and thats all baptism is to the Mormons. AARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I have to leave it in God’s hands, I don’t have a choice.
 
According to Mormons here and elsewhere, baptism of an under-age child requires the consent of both parents. There is the official line, and what people do. Mormons can be deceptive.
 
SteveVH said:
Why don’t we hear of Jesus visiting Australia, for instance? Were the native people there not worthy? Jesus gave his Church the mission of preaching the gospel to the whole world. It is through his Church, the Catholic Church, that he visits the entire world.
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There are probably a couple good reasons for Jesus not visiting Australia. 😛
  1. The Aborigines are not a light skinned people.
  2. When Australia was colonized by the British, it was a Penal colony.
It is my understanding that mormons excommunicate people who are in jail/prison.
 
SteveVH said:
Why don’t we hear of Jesus visiting Australia, for instance? Were the native people there not worthy? Jesus gave his Church the mission of preaching the gospel to the whole world. It is through his Church, the Catholic Church, that he visits the entire world.
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But, they were Aborigines. Remember that the LDS originally taught that dark skin was a curse. Then, like so many other things in their continuing revelation, it began to change. Rather a parallel with the world at large.
 
twopekinguys said:
There are probably a couple good reasons for Jesus not visiting Australia. 😛
  1. The Aborigines are not a light skinned people.
  2. When Australia was colonized by the British, it was a Penal colony.
It is my understanding that mormons excommunicate people who are in jail/prison.
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Like jospeh Smith? :eek:
 
po18guy said:
Compare the fall in the garden (Genesis 3) with the goal of Mormon men: To be gods.
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This is what concerns me most about the Mormon faith - the promises of Heaven that completely contradict all teachings from both the OT and the NT. Like Islam, the promises of heaven are very physical - Mormonism teaches of levels of heaven and celestial marriage, Islam of the reward of virgins. Whatever will we do with carnality of the flesh in heaven? 1 Corinthians 15:50 tells us that the flesh & blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
po18guy said:
Like Joseph Smith? :eek:
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That was my first thought, too! :eek:

I had never heard of that one, before. I find it ironic that modern day Mormons are so self righteous as to abandon their own people for going to jail, but in the next breath claim that JS was a true prophet, even though he was (“unjustly”) arrested and jailed, several times. :juggle:

I don’t get it. 🤷
 
twopekinguys said:
There are probably a couple good reasons for Jesus not visiting Australia. 😛
  1. The Aborigines are not a light skinned people.
  2. When Australia was colonized by the British, it was a Penal colony.
It is my understanding that mormons excommunicate people who are in jail/prison.
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And I just thought it was because J. Smith had never been to Australia and had no ‘romantic’ ideas about their native population.
 
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