A catholic who is a mason

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The KCs are a great bunch of guys for the most part. My school’s computer program would be in a shambles without Knights donating sources and time. Hardly sounds like the KKK

-Please dont think that I am saying that the Knights of Columbus are anything but a GREAT bunch of Men. I was just wanting to know if anyone had ever HEARD that, because I certainly hadn’t. I was actually stunned when the friend asked the question. I told him point blank at the time there was NO AFFILIATION whatsoever! Actually, I wanted to know if anyone here had ever heard that. Thank you all for your responses. I know there is no affiliation with the kkk, I couldn’t believe he even asked me that question to be quite honest. Thanks again. 👍
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I never thought that for a second. I just wasn’t clear on which one it was, your son or the friend. And I’m finding out here of late things I take for granted as “everybody” having knowledge of, well, they don’t.
 
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YahShuaMessiah:
The following is a list of Masons reprinted with some updates from the Bulletin de l’Occident…
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Your cites and sites are anti-Catholic in nature and not approved by the Church.

At this point, the OP has been supplied with answers to his questions, and has been given the opportunity to make up his mind.
 
Dear friends,
I feel that I must deeply apologize, to all, but specifically to, lachie, Sir Knight, Eileen T and Lapsed.
A few days ago I posted a thread asking honest opinions about a catholic being a mason. These facts and ideas were given in an honest manner. I, as a sinner, and an arrogant fool, responded with sarchasm and distain.
I thank each and every one of you for your insight and cander in my query. It caused much contemplation in my soul and have been in deep thought over the matter. On Friday I paid a visit to my priest at Corpus Christi parish here where I live. And what started out to be a brief coversation about the subject turned into a three hour discussion. It was with the fathers insight and much self examination that I have come to a few conclussions.
I have judged that matter of being a mason in modern America not to be the issue is was in the past, but that being said I have decided that I must make things right with the Lord.
While I made many friends and had many good times at the lodge, and I will keep in contact with a few fellows on a friendly basis, I feel that the chance of losing my place in the Roman Catholic Church, however small it may be, in not worth the risk.
On Friday afternoon I dispatched a registered letter, with copies sent to the grand lodge and to my parish, to the masonic lodge dictating by withdrawl from the order.
While I will admit I do not as of yet fully understand the rift between the Church and the masons, I do not feel that it is worth the chance of putting my soul in jeopardy.

In closing I humbly ask for the forgiveness of the above mentioned and all who have read this thread and were hurt by my words. And I would also humbly ask that, if you find me worthy, say a prayer for me, that I may find the error in my ways.
I feel that with the help of our Lord Jesus Christ, and some prayers from a few friends, I can cement my foundation again in my faith.

Thank you all and God Bless.

Regards,
Iron Duke aka Karl Ratchenko
 
Karl, let me congratulate you for having the courage to re-examine something you clearly felt very strongly about. May God grant us all such courage. The spirit of humility you have demonstrated by coming here and publically acknowledging that you happen to be as human as the rest of us is a gift of God.

Though I have not been offended by your words here, you ask my forgiveness and therefore you have it.

Conforming ourselves to Christ and submitting ourselves to the authority of His Church is an ongoing process for all of us. May God continue to grant you strength on the journey.
 
I wasn’t offended either.

Ditto to what Lapsed said. I am sincerely impressed with the humility you evidenced in your post. So many times I have also been guilty of arrogance when corrected about something, only to have God rebuke me in the quiet of my heart.

I will say a prayer for you and for all Catholics who have become involved in Masonry. Let us also offer a prayer of thanks for that insightful priest.

Kia kaha, my brother (Maori for “Stand Strong”)
 
There is no such thing.

You can be one or you can be the other. There is no middle ground.
 
IronDuke,

Good luck in everything and I’ll keep you in my prayers. My own decision to demit and return to the Church was also not an easy decision and was several months in the making. Having returned to full communion with the Church and resumed a very high level of activity in the Knights of Columbus has been worth it. Our council is small, but very active in our parish and I enjoy the many chances to put the rubber to the road by being involved in our charitable functions in the parish and the local community.
 
Iron Duke:
Dear friends,
I feel that I must deeply apologize, to all, but specifically to, lachie, Sir Knight, Eileen T and Lapsed.
A few days ago I posted a thread asking honest opinions about a catholic being a mason. These facts and ideas were given in an honest manner. I, as a sinner, and an arrogant fool, responded with sarchasm and distain.
I thank each and every one of you for your insight and cander in my query. It caused much contemplation in my soul and have been in deep thought over the matter. On Friday I paid a visit to my priest at Corpus Christi parish here where I live. And what started out to be a brief coversation about the subject turned into a three hour discussion. It was with the fathers insight and much self examination that I have come to a few conclussions.
I have judged that matter of being a mason in modern America not to be the issue is was in the past, but that being said I have decided that I must make things right with the Lord.
While I made many friends and had many good times at the lodge, and I will keep in contact with a few fellows on a friendly basis, I feel that the chance of losing my place in the Roman Catholic Church, however small it may be, in not worth the risk.
On Friday afternoon I dispatched a registered letter, with copies sent to the grand lodge and to my parish, to the masonic lodge dictating by withdrawl from the order.
While I will admit I do not as of yet fully understand the rift between the Church and the masons, I do not feel that it is worth the chance of putting my soul in jeopardy.

In closing I humbly ask for the forgiveness of the above mentioned and all who have read this thread and were hurt by my words. And I would also humbly ask that, if you find me worthy, say a prayer for me, that I may find the error in my ways.
I feel that with the help of our Lord Jesus Christ, and some prayers from a few friends, I can cement my foundation again in my faith.

Thank you all and God Bless.

Regards,
Iron Duke aka Karl Ratchenko
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No harm, no foul. It takes a great deal of courage to post what you said. Clearly the good Lord guided your hand. May He do so in all other matters.

That goes for all of us.
 
Hi Iron Duke,

Sending that registered letter to the lodge took a great deal of courage, and I wish you well as you pursue your 1st degree in the Knights of Columbus. I would be proud to recommend you to our council, and I hope you are warmly received in yours.

I’m sure there isn’t a one of us who hasn’t disagreed with the teachings of the Church about something, sometime. I certainly must admit I’ve had my share of ‘odds’ with the Church. I just try to realize that it’s not important that I know all the details of why the Church teaches one thing, or another. It’s a little like when my Mother would tell me not to play in the street or stick things in the light socket. She was just looking out for me, and knew long before I did, what was best for me and what could hurt me.

So, dear candidate to the K of C, let me welcome you to the Knights. It truly is a lot more than just drinkin’ beer and flippin’ pancakes.
 
Sir Knight:
No harm, no foul. It takes a great deal of courage to post what you said. Clearly the good Lord guided your hand. May He do so in all other matters.

That goes for all of us.
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Vivat Jesus!

Sir Knight, don’t you agree that our friend here, will make a fine Knight? Do you also agree that he might just become an extraordinary Knight? His actions demonstrated here, indicates to me that he has the makings of a top two-percenter.
 
organization than the Masons anyway.

If you are a Mason in my hometown then you are over 85 years old. If you are a knight your average age is about 45.
 
Iron Duke,

I owe you both an apology and a debt of gratitude.

I started reading this thread this morning. After the first ten posts or so, I concluded you were a troll just out to stir up controversy and, I am sorry to admit, thought some very bad things about you. I apologize to you for those thoughts. They were not right even if you were out to vex.

And then, mirable dictu!, I read your last statement. Sir, I believe it was nothing other than the grace of Our Lord that had you post here. I certainly feel that grace strongly in light of your humble and honest response to the very complete and compassionate posts here. I was both educated and invigorated in the faith by reading this thread today. May each of our days begin with such love and care.

Our Lord is alive and with us at all times, no more so than in our receipt of the Holy Eucharist.

Anyway, thanks for your example Iron Duke. You, and those who responded to you, have made my day.

Now, if only the Steelers win this afternoon!!!
 
Iron Duke:
Dear friends,
I feel that I must deeply apologize, to all, but specifically to, lachie, Sir Knight, Eileen T and Lapsed.
A few days ago I posted a thread asking honest opinions about a catholic being a mason. These facts and ideas were given in an honest manner. I, as a sinner, and an arrogant fool, responded with sarchasm and distain.
I thank each and every one of you for your insight and cander in my query. It caused much contemplation in my soul and have been in deep thought over the matter. On Friday I paid a visit to my priest at Corpus Christi parish here where I live. And what started out to be a brief coversation about the subject turned into a three hour discussion. It was with the fathers insight and much self examination that I have come to a few conclussions.
I have judged that matter of being a mason in modern America not to be the issue is was in the past, but that being said I have decided that I must make things right with the Lord.
While I made many friends and had many good times at the lodge, and I will keep in contact with a few fellows on a friendly basis, I feel that the chance of losing my place in the Roman Catholic Church, however small it may be, in not worth the risk.
On Friday afternoon I dispatched a registered letter, with copies sent to the grand lodge and to my parish, to the masonic lodge dictating by withdrawl from the order.
While I will admit I do not as of yet fully understand the rift between the Church and the masons, I do not feel that it is worth the chance of putting my soul in jeopardy.

In closing I humbly ask for the forgiveness of the above mentioned and all who have read this thread and were hurt by my words. And I would also humbly ask that, if you find me worthy, say a prayer for me, that I may find the error in my ways.
I feel that with the help of our Lord Jesus Christ, and some prayers from a few friends, I can cement my foundation again in my faith.

Thank you all and God Bless.

Regards,
Iron Duke aka Karl Ratchenko
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Iron Duke,

I have read many posts, and have gotten into many conversations and arguments with many people on these forums, and I have to say that in all my time, the post that you made above was without question the most humble, holy, saintly, pius and Godly post I have ever read in the time I have been a member here.

You have just demonstrated a rare example of saintly courage, of true love for the Lord. His Grace is clearly flowing through you, and you will receive a wonderful reward in heaven for what you have done. I shall pray for you that you continue on this holy and righeous [sp?] path that you have chosen.

I predict that you will become an outstanding Knight, and a firm defender of Holy Mother Church. I only pray that God will grant me the same courage that He has clearly granted you whenever I have to make a difficult decision.

May Our Lady watch over you always!
 
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cargopilot:
Vivat Jesus!

Sir Knight, don’t you agree that our friend here, will make a fine Knight? Do you also agree that he might just become an extraordinary Knight? His actions demonstrated here, indicates to me that he has the makings of a top two-percenter.
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Time will tell. Prosit!
 
Thank you Iron Duke for your kind message you sent…I hope my answer was somewhat helpful.Congrats on your decision and good luck with the KOC…🙂
 
Karl, may the Lord greatly reward you in your desire to be His faithful servant. 👍
 
I was taught entry into Freemasonry or secret societies was a grave sin, in need of immediate repentance.

You may not like the answer, but that is the answer. But I would recommend talking to your priest as soon as you can, I think he’ll say the same thing.

Nevermind, carry on just read downt he thread… 🙂 😃

Good choice BTW Iron Duke.
 
bkdianne said:
-I have a question. I’m a Catholic have been all my life. Attend Mass weekly, etc. I’ve always known the Knights of Columbus to be “a group of Catholic Men” who do good things. Beyond that, I dont know what they do. I was talking to my Son and his friend the other night (24 yrs. old attending college) and came upon the topic of “Knights of Columbus” My sons friend asked a strange question. He wanted to know if I was talking about the KKK??? Now why in the world would he ask me that question. He said that the KKK is called “Knights of Columbus” Can someone help me out here. He keeps asking me if I have found out anything. Of course, I told him there was NO AFFILIATION whatsoever…but why would he ask such a question, and was the KKK called the Knights of Columbus? :eek:
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KKK stands for Ku Klux Klan. My high school history teacher (many years ago) told us that the name was invented by a Southerner who thought it sounded Greek (like a fraternity). The Knights of Columbus was founded in 1882 by Fr. Michael J. McGiveny in a Catholic Church in Connecticut. Fr. McGiveny’s cause for sainthood has been opened in Rome.

So, to answer your question, no, there is no affiliation between these two groups.

BTW, BRAVO and well done to Iron Duke!!!
 
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