'A Chilling Effect': Fla. Man Jailed in UAE for Facebook Posts Made on U.S. Soil

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insider.foxnews.com/2015/03/06/americans-facebook-posts-made-us-soil-land-him-uae-jail
A Florida congressman is fighting to free an American jailed in the United Arab Emirates for Facebook posts he wrote on U.S. soil.
While home in Florida, Ryan Pate made some tough comments on Facebook about his United Arab Emirates-based employer following a dispute over sick leave. When he returned to the United Arab Emirates, Pate was thrown in jail for slandering his employer.
Pate has spent 10 days in jail and could face another five years behind bars for slander.
Florida Rep. David Jolly is vowing to bring Pate home. He said he has asked Secretary of State John Kerry to intervene, and Jolly has contacted the attorney general in the United Arab Emirates in an attempt to get clemency for Pate. Jolly said he will continue to work on this every day until Pate’s next trial date on March 17.
Jolly acknowledged that Pate’s comments were disrespectful, but said Pate has owned up to that. Still, they were not threatening, he stressed.
The Florida congressman remarked that this case has a chilling effect on protected speech since Pate’s comments were posted on U.S. soil.
“This is a terrifying prospect that a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil can engage in constitutionally protected activity – speech – and then fly overseas and be detained,” Jolly said. “Imagine if the United States were to detain an Emirati for lawful behavior in their own country, but we decided to detain them here. It’s wrong, and it does have a chilling effect, and it’s scary.”
 
They must not have much crime if talking bad about your job can land you in the slammer. Like, they don’t have real criminals they need to detain? If venting about your job was a reason to go to jail in America, there wouldn’t be many on the outside.

UAE are a bunch of tools, yeah I said it! :D:p
 
They must not have much crime if talking bad about your job can land you in the slammer. Like, they don’t have real criminals they need to detain? If venting about your job was a reason to go to jail in America, there wouldn’t be many on the outside.

UAE are a bunch of tools, yeah I said it! :D:p
He criticized Islam Not a good idea if you are going to be working in an Islamic Country.
 
I know an engineer who accepted an extremely lucrative job in UAE, and he almost wound up in prison himself. Americans really need to be aware not to go there. Ally or not, their government is clinically insane by western standards.
 
I know an engineer who accepted an extremely lucrative job in UAE, and he almost wound up in prison himself. Americans really need to be aware not to go there. Ally or not, their government is clinically insane by western standards.
I have many clients who are working in Middle Eastern countries and I’m quite surprised that he did what he did.Usually the companies are pretty good about warning about the culture they are entering and the need to be careful about what they say and do .
 
I have many clients who are working in Middle Eastern countries and I’m quite surprised that he did what he did.Usually the companies are pretty good about warning about the culture they are entering and the need to be careful about what they say and do .
He was young and it was his first big job offer. His friends told him to be careful, but they paid him a lot of money….
 
He was young and it was his first big job offer. His friends told him to be careful, but they paid him a lot of money….
Refering to your employers as “filthy arabs” is not a good career move. It appears they have dropped the insulting Islan charges so now he faces only five years in jail.
 
I have many clients who are working in Middle Eastern countries and I’m quite surprised that he did what he did.Usually the companies are pretty good about warning about the culture they are entering and the need to be careful about what they say and do .
By the way, I’m guessing you probably have some terrifying true stories of Americans working in sketchy places, yourself. I’d be interested in hearing any, if you’re in the mood.
 
Refering to your employers as “filthy arabs” is not a good career move. It appears they have dropped the insulting Islan charges so now he faces only five years in jail.
That sounds akin to pointing a loaded pistol at one’s head and pulling the trigger! Poor guy! I hope he’s able to procure a really top-notch attorney.😦
 
It sounds racist for those people who knock the UAE, they are our allies, they are part of the allied coalition against ISIS, they let us use Al Dhafra airforce base. They even have 911 memorials there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Dhafra_Air_Base They’ve also made a list of terrorist organizations: archive.defensenews.com/article/20141120/DEFREG04/311200045/Questions-Praise-UAE-s-Terrorist-List including CAIR which is mentioned by some experts as an accomplishment.

UAE may not be perfect but racist attacks on them are rather repugnant.
 
I wonder if this American thinks the money was worth the trouble he is facing now? Was he fired after the Facebook postings?
 
By the way, I’m guessing you probably have some terrifying true stories of Americans working in sketchy places, yourself. I’d be interested in hearing any, if you’re in the mood.
I work in many countries in the Middle East and Africa and as long as you don’t use drugs, drink alcohol, or hire prostitutes you’ll avoid trouble 99% of the time. I suppose that is true everywhere though.

Most of the stories that go bad are like this, although most don’t end with a death. It isn’t uncommon for prostitutes to try and slip you a roofie and take you back to your room and rob you. Sometimes I suppose they aren’t too careful with how much they give you.

Dubai, like most big cities, has a pretty bad problem with sex workers and sex trafficking. Good girls don’t go to bars in the Middle East, so if you see a girl in a bar be forewarned that 9 times out of 10 she is a sex worker. Several of my coworkers have told me they’ve been out at a bar chatting up a girl only to wake up the next day with all of their belongings gone and no recollection of the previous night. Most every story I could tell you about Dubai involves prostitution, cherchez la femme I suppose.

One story I have other that doesn’t involve prostitution was when my Norwegian coworker was detained for taking pictures in Equatorial Guinea. EG is very, very strict when it comes to taking pictures. You have to have a government issued photography license to carry a camera and even then you will need to be extremely cautious about where you take pictures. Apparently he snapped a photograph from his car and the police saw him and followed him back to the guest house. The country manager had to drive out to the house and bribe the police to leave without my coworker.
 
By the way, I’m guessing you probably have some terrifying true stories of Americans working in sketchy places, yourself. I’d be interested in hearing any, if you’re in the mood.
Mostly funny. For instance last year I had a Jewish client who was working in Quatar. He wanted to come home for Passover but obviously couldn’t tell his employers why as obviously hev could not tell them he was Jewish . So he told them he was going home for Easter. When I pointed out Passover was a week earlier than Easter that year he said if they asked he would say that Palm Sunday was always a big holiday in his family .

The truth is that when you work in these countries they pretty much go by a don’t ask don’t tell policy . What you want to do in the privacy of your home or, is often the case, western enclaves is fine . While in public you must respect the culture. That is why I am somewhat surprised that this employee did something so utterly stupid. Surely somewhere along the line he had to have some orientation warning him about the culture of about the country was about to live in.

Due you resurgence in the domestic oil industry because of fracking many of my clients are now ending up working in North Dakota . They say the difference between working in North Dakota and the Middle East is housing is a lot easier to come by in the Middle East 🙂
 
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