A Christian challenge

[Keikiolu]

A little “self-criticism” is due…!!

Are you a communist? Or just a member of the party?

That was not particularly necessary,… now was it…?

That’s true. Paganism is nothing at all. Just a complete fiction. But it’s a useful fiction, as it gives pagans a “Club” to play in.

That one we could talk about, I suppose,… though it was worded in a rather snarky way.

I don’t speak for Christians. I don’t speak for Catholics.

I speak only for myself as a Catholic, and you speak for yourself as a pagan.

Duh…!

There I go,… stating the obvious again.

So far what you’ve said describes your “religion” quite well.

I think (!?) what this means is that I do indeed believe that you have described your religion, as you see it, quite well.

I don’t expect present day pagans to be able to organize anything but the occassional kegger.

OK. That was almost certainly uncalled for. Not that I don’t actually believe that, but that specific response was a bit TOO pithy, shall we say.

Pagans are great. They give the rest of us something to laugh about.

NOT NICE…!! I shouldn’t have said that. We each know full well, of course, that there is a certain amout of “humor” amongst the “in group” when talking about the “out group”, whichever group you’re in,… but that just made me look silly, and doesn’t much help in showing the “best face” of where I’m coming from, now does it…!?

You’re right. There is no “pagan anything”, due to the lack of “thingness” inherent in paganism.

Typical statement of mine. It’s not really TOO offensive, in my opinion,… but then, that’s MY opinion.

And I would agree with you.

…

I’m sure you’re a good person, as well as several of your friends. Here’s hoping that you stay that way.

Hang onto the ethics that you got from your forebears, the good parts of which you got from God via “natural law” and God via “revelation” that you absorbed from your Christian upbringing.

Show me the thinking of the Church, coming from the official docs of the Magisterium, which are the only Christian “moral/ethics” I consider representative of actual Christainity,… as opposed to “pseudo-Christianity”.

I don’t defend pseudo-Christians.

That bit I’ll vouch for.



I suppose I really should not try to respond to postings on Fridays when I’m short of time.

…or when I have to go to the bathroom.

I tend to get a little to “short” when I’m pressed for time.

Sorry about that.

Mahalo ke Akua…!
E pili mau na pomaikai ia oe. Aloha nui.

 

[Bennie_P]

Still wasting your time on this thread? It’s been weeks since the OP started this or even joined into the debate. (reborn_pagan Last Activity: Apr 18, '07)

Has anyone changed their ideas yet? or have grown in Love or understanding for each other?

Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge, among you? Let him shew, by a good contestation, his work in the meekness of wisdom. But if you have bitter zeal, and there be contention in your hearts: glory not and be not liars against the truth. For this is not wisdom, descending from above: but earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and contention is: there is inconstancy and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above, first indeed is chaste, then peaceable, modest, easy to be persuaded, consenting to the good, full of mercy and good fruits, without judging, without dissimulation. And the fruit of justice is sown in peace, to them that make peace.
James 3:13 -18

PAX :getholy:

 

[Yerusalyim]

Okay this I have been going from site to site asking and have not gotten a single answer, this challange isn’t anything bad, its just a question

can you prove…without using the Bible, that paganism and anyother relgion is wrong?

blessed be,
cody

I didn’t read through all 11 pages of this answer, has anyone yet said, “Sacred Tradition as handed down by the Apostles”?

 

[Bennie_P]

I didn’t read through all 11 pages of this answer, has anyone yet said, “Sacred Tradition as handed down by the Apostles”?

Scripture has many lessons to teach then just doctrine.

In overall context the scripture I quoted is about works and faith, there are lessons being taught about how to act also. You are chasing a goose.

 

[Yerusalyim]

BennieP,

Stop being so self centered, I was answering “Pagan” not responding to anything you wrote…since I didn’t read anything you posted in this thread…NOTICE…I cut and paste the original question…and then said I did NOT read all 11 pages of replies to that original thread because I had a solid answer…

The original question concerned proving without the use of scripture that paganism is wrong…my quick and easy response is Sacred Tradition…part of the Deposit of Faith (of which scripture is a part).

Now, you said,

Scripture has many lessons to teach then just doctrine.

I agree…but it doesn’t fit the context of the question

In overall context the scripture I quoted is about works and faith, there are lessons being taught about how to act also.

I have NO IDEA what scripture you quoted, but again, it’s not germaine to the question, which was about proving paganism wrong WITHOUT scripture.

You are chasing a goose.

Hardly.