A conversation with a Muslim evangelist

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He told me some stuff and I asked him a bunch of questions that he hasn’t got around to answering, can anyone perhaps help me out? Here’s his statement:
You do as what Jesus told you in the Bible… REPEATEDLY
{16:13} Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. {16:14} He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.
This he, he, and he, is Muhammad…
“he will guide to ALL truth” … Islam is the PERFECT and COMPLETE revelation that deals with EVERYTHING.
“he shall glorify me” … Quran mentions the name “Muhammad” 5 times, Jesus 25 times, Mary 32 times. There is a whole book in Quran titled “Mary” in honor of Jesus’ mother, while there are NO books in the Bible titled “Mary” to honor the so-called “Mother of God” → Trinity+1 perhaps?
If you want to follow Jesus fully, you can only be a Muslim.
And here’s my inquiries:
My question for you is, when Jesus talks of the Spirit of Truth coming, was he merely prophesizing that Muhammad was going to becoming 600 years later? Why would he call him a “spirit” and not a “person”? Also, does that mean that everything else in John’s gospel regarding Jesus’s divinity is not true? Does that mean that here when Jesus is explaining that the spirit of truth coming because he’s about to die and wants to assure his disciples that they’ll figure stuff out that that didn’t really happen? Does that mean that only this verse is relevent and the rest of the Gospel of John is false? Does this mean that Jesus was wrong in stopping the stoning of the woman in the Gospel of John because Muhammad later advocates stoning in some circumstances? Does this mean that the morality established by Jesus and his apostles in the 1st century regarding the equality of sexes and not having to worry about eating certain foods and stuff was imperfect and just for a short period of time until Muhammad came along and overrode the things that Jesus changed temporarily? Or, does this mean that somehow, systematically, after all the books of the New Testament were written, there was some sort of massive organized conspiracy to “edit” them and “corrupt” them and add a bunch of stuff around where Jesus is talking about a “spirit of truth” to come up with some non sense that this is actually the Holy Spirit? Does this mean that Allah likes to waste time and establish a true religion but then have it flop and need to be replaced later? If so, then you’re beginning to sound a lot like a Mormon in the fact that you’re making these really far stretches and kind of just throwing some random verses out there to suit your own meanings without respecting the original meaning or trying to understand the text as a whole?
 
I’m not surprised he didn’t get back to you with some answers to your just questions.
 
My question for you is, when Jesus talks of the Spirit of Truth coming, was he merely prophesizing that Muhammad was going to becoming 600 years later?
yes , why not
Why would he call him a “spirit” and not a “person”?
the question should to be why it was translated to spirit not a person , as for jesus didn’t speak english
but anyway , spirit mentioned many times in the bible refering to persons , so i don’t understand your problem really
Also, does that mean that everything else in John’s gospel regarding Jesus’s divinity is not true?
this is our beliefs , but i can’t see the relation between the prophecy and your beliefs about divinity of jesus in other verses
Does that mean that here when Jesus is explaining that the spirit of truth coming because he’s about to die and wants to assure his disciples that they’ll figure stuff out that that didn’t really happen?
i think it was prophecy for the DESCENDANT , not necessery to be for apostles themselfs , i believe that the apostles knew the truth about jesus (pbuh)
Does that mean that only this verse is relevent and the rest of the Gospel of John is false?
why , what the other verses said about spirit of truth , can you be more specific because we don’t memmorize gospel of John
Does this mean that Jesus was wrong in stopping the stoning of the woman in the Gospel of John because Muhammad later advocates stoning in some circumstances?
no
Does this mean that the morality established by Jesus and his apostles in the 1st century regarding the equality of sexes and not having to worry about eating certain foods and stuff was imperfect and just for a short period of time until Muhammad came along and overrode the things that Jesus changed temporarily?
offcourse not
(actually i can’t find the relation between your questions and the original discussion about the spirit of truth)
Or, does this mean that somehow, systematically, after all the books of the New Testament were written, there was some sort of massive organized conspiracy to “edit” them and “corrupt” them and add a bunch of stuff around where Jesus is talking about a “spirit of truth” to come up with some non sense that this is actually the Holy Spirit? Does this mean that Allah likes to waste time and establish a true religion but then have it flop and need to be replaced later? If so, then you’re beginning to sound a lot like a Mormon in the fact that you’re making these really far stretches and kind of just throwing some random verses out there to suit your own meanings without respecting the original meaning or trying to understand the text as a whole?
ask specific and clear questions if you really need answeres
 
the question should to be why it was translated to spirit not a person , as for jesus didn’t speak english
It is “Spirit” in Greek, the original language in which the Gospel of John was written, that’s why. πνευμα της αληθειας = “spirit of truth”

As usual, weak Islamic "what if"s and no real understanding of the texts being claimed to support Islam. :rolleyes:
 
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