A crippling blow to Americas' prestige

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“The United States was once known for its can-do culture. We built the Panama Canal and we put a man on the moon,” said historian Douglas Brinkley of Rice University. “And now we can’t get a swab or a face mask or a gown and we have no real chain of command. And we have two Americas, a Republican one and a Democratic one, and they won’t collaborate. We are not leading in the pandemic response, we are trailing other countries by a long shot. This is a crippling blow to America’s prestige around the world.”
 
Prestige? There are people trying to render care to others, sometimes an overwhelming number of others, who are carrying a disease that the caretakers have no immunity to, a disease those caretakers could be carrying without any symptoms back to their families, there isn’t enough protective gear for the caretakers to render that care in a way that protects the caretakers from infection, and he’s worried about prestige?!?

I think we have bigger fish to fry than our prestige.
sloancaprice said:
I don’t think there is any doubt that America is declining in the eyes of the rest of the world and has been for some time.
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If it is any consolation, I don’t think we were ever as high in their eyes as we were in our own.

Pride goes before disaster, and a haughty spirit before a fall. (Prov. 16:18)
 
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Come on. Do we need more garage like this article spilled. We have been divided on many issues and will be in the future but to throw us all under the bus.

We are in the midst of a virus that we do not know much about. That is about it. I live in NE and there is no such thing happening. Deaths rates are finally going down and the good news is spring has finally arrived so people are feeling much better.
 
gam197 said:
Come on. Do we need more garage like this article spilled
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Come on. The article is not garbage, but exposes problems that we need to solve.
The blow to prestige is important - we are all much safer living in a worlds seeks to emulate American values and governance. But more important is our ability to conduct our affairs in an effective and productive way. That is worth discussing.
 
Remember how last administration they said, the USA put a man on the moon, now we are trying to put a man in a woman’s restroom with all of this transgender stuff.

A number of countries have been hit with corona in this manner, Canada, Israel, Italy, Spain, UK.

Some college prof says this, I’m shocked.
 
dvdjs said:
We were talking about the respect of nations.
Not the views domestic political opponents.
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If one reads the article, they were quoting someone from Rice University, so, I don’t think your statements goes with the narrative either.
 
I don’t hear this around at all, and maybe it is because of the fear and worry about the virus sincerely.
What one hears is that if it was so massive in US then what are we going to do here ? kind of thing, And it is quite a logical worry given our resources…
We are probably all too much concerned about the local issues right now, the everyday.
This virus has turned everything everywhere upside down and sometimes without even knowing exactly why .
Take care…
I wouldn’t add one more worry than we already have in real life.
 
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Rash judgment isn’t “just an opinion.”
It is attribution of an uncharitable attitude to someone who may not have such a callous view of the loss of human life or who might repent from having let envy turn their hearts so cold.
 
I base it on who is posting, what they post, and in the context of other posts they have made over time on the website (which kind of paint a picture of where they stand what they want), as well as past experiences in talking to other people. If you disagree, so be it.
 
And we have people and restaurants taking food to health care workers in the
hospitals.

I think our response has been good. They shouldn’t blame the rest of the country for the
response in New York, New Jersey and Massachusettes and 2-3 other states.
 
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ProVobis said:
If you go by Trump’s standards of anything less than 100,000 deaths means doing a good job.
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I don’t know what he really thinks; I only know he feels a need to keep up an advertising campaign that is far beyond both reality and also beyond what anyone really expects a President to do. He is also knows what he knows–business and commerce–but doesn’t seem to know what he doesn’t know–like how treatments for a disease are actually identified.

No one in government can do enough to satisfy all their adversaries; he has to know that. What I don’t think he gets is that he doesn’t need to make the wild claims he makes in order to satisfy his partisans and those claims probably make the undecided less inclined to believe what he says. Honestly, if I thought he were the greatest President ever, I’d still find that a very frustrating thing about him.
 
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7_Sorrows said:
I think our response has been good. They shouldn’t blame the rest of the country for the
response in New York, New Jersey and Massachusettes and 2-3 other states.
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Yes, I think that a lot of places got the message from seeing Italy and New York. I have heard health experts say that many locales were far more diligent about observing public health restrictions than any of the epidemic models dared to have forecast, which is wonderful. It isn’t just that the numbers were better. The actual observance (as can be tracked by those who have a way to track cell phones) was better than hoped, too.

This hasn’t healed our every rift, but there have still been some real bright spots in this.
 
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What I’m hoping, going forward, is that we realize it’s up to us to prevent the second wave that many are predicting. IF we continue to social distance and IF we continue to wear masks in public and IF we wash our hands frequently and IF we continue use of hand sanitizers and wiping surfaces, we could actually prevent a second wave.

My problem is that I’m not really hopeful this will take place. People are barely following the directions now…less than half the people I see at grocery stores are wearing masks. I watched a grocery employee wiping the outside of door handles and pointed out that he needed to wipe the underside, too! He then started doing so but didn’t go back to all the ones he missed.

I do think that if we get a second wave and it’s severe, we’ll only have ourselves to blame.
 
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