A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Vomitorium

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Why would I waste my time caring about someone who has sex with animals or objects? I don’t care now. I won’t care then. It truly makes no difference to me whatsoever.
 
on_the_hill said:
Why would I waste my time caring about someone who has sex with animals or objects? I don’t care now. I won’t care then. It truly makes no difference to me whatsoever.
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People of compassion, particularly Christians, should care about whether God’s creatures are being abused. It’s not a waste of time to care for some of us. Open your heart.
 
Of course bestiality (among other things) is the next logical step after tolerance of homosexual sex. With tolerance of contraception came tolerance of fornication, and with tolerance of fornication came tolerance of divorce ,and with tolerance of divorce came tolerance of homosexual sex. If this weren’t the case, and homosexual sex meant nothing other than two adults being able to enjoy sex, then it means that the Catholic Church is wrong: homosexual sex is not a grave social ill, and our condemnation of it is irrational at best and bigoted at worst.
 
Homosexuality is not the slippery slope to bestiality. It is not the “gateway drug” to paraphilias. It is an orientation, not a psychiatric disturbance. Even the Church doesn’t make these ridiculous claims.
 
TK421 said:
Of course bestiality (among other things) is the next logical step after tolerance of homosexual sex. With tolerance of contraception came tolerance of fornication, and with tolerance of fornication came tolerance of divorce ,and with tolerance of divorce came tolerance of homosexual sex. If this weren’t the case, and homosexual sex meant nothing other than two adults being able to enjoy sex, then it means that the Catholic Church is wrong: homosexual sex is not a grave social ill, and our condemnation of it is irrational at best and bigoted at worst.
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IDK about that…Id say bestiality will come much further down the road, only because I rarely hear about cases of this on the news, and I mean RARELY! But the thing we do hear alot on the news is people having sex with children, this seems to happen more and more, It seems like Im hearing of teachers being caught in relationships with underage students quite a bit nowadays, where back 15-20 yrs ago, this kind of thing was unheard of.

I think this will be the next group trying to change public perception and fighting for their ‘rights’…Think about it, 30 yrs ago, look at how the public viewed gay people…its pretty close to how society views pedophiles today, most people think its sick and wrong, but over a period of time, with the help of Hollywood and the media, people now think being gay is almost the hip thing to be, they certainly dont come out and say its disgusting or wrong anymore!

Plus we all know satan has this world ‘under his spell’, so its only logical that society will become more and more sexually depraved as time goes on, what was once thought to be totally wrong, is now accepted.
 
NeedsMercy said:
Homosexuality is not the slippery slope to bestiality. It is not the “gateway drug” to paraphilias. It is an orientation, not a psychiatric disturbance. Even the Church doesn’t make these ridiculous claims.
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You are correct, homosexuality does not lead to bestiality. However, acceptance of homosexual activity as normal IS a slippery slope to the acceptance of other types of deviant sex, including bestiality. Quite honestly, I’m more concerned about the, in my opinion, inevitable coming push to accept pedophilia as normal.

Peace

Tim
 
NeedsMercy said:
Homosexuality is not the slippery slope to bestiality. It is not the “gateway drug” to paraphilias. It is an orientation, not a psychiatric disturbance. Even the Church doesn’t make these ridiculous claims.
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I’m pretty sure the church teaches that sin leads to more sin, which is often new types of sin, by wounding the soul. Every sin wounds the soul. Homosexuality would not be exempt.
 
mikekle said:
IDK about that…Id say bestiality will come much further down the road, only because I rarely hear about cases of this on the news, and I mean RARELY! But the thing we do hear alot on the news is people having sex with children, this seems to happen more and more, It seems like Im hearing of teachers being caught in relationships with underage students quite a bit nowadays, where back 15-20 yrs ago, this kind of thing was unheard of.

I think this will be the next group trying to change public perception and fighting for their ‘rights’…Think about it, 30 yrs ago, look at how the public viewed gay people…its pretty close to how society views pedophiles today, most people think its sick and wrong, but over a period of time, with the help of Hollywood and the media, people now think being gay is almost the hip thing to be, they certainly dont come out and say its disgusting or wrong anymore!

Plus we all know satan has this world ‘under his spell’, so its only logical that society will become more and more sexually depraved as time goes on, what was once thought to be totally wrong, is now accepted.
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In 1985, gay activity was nowhere near as unacceptable as pedophilia is now.

It was then less welcome than now, in part because of the AIDS fear then at its height, but there was already a thriving and expanding “gay community” and even some mass sympathy, due to the youth dying of AIDS.

ICXC NIKA
 
Melodeonist said:
Perhaps I should become a Plain Catholic. The mainstream world is going to Hell in an hand basket (or did it arrive yet?).
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I understand what you are saying. Some times it gets harder and harder to hear these things. People try to say they have always gone on and we just didn’t know about it but that is not true, at least it didn’t happen to the extreme it is now. There has always been sin but today with so much atheism and information going around the internet these things are growing by leaps and bounds.

I do want to say also I am glad you will be starting an RCIA soon and we are very glad you are here. Welcome. 🙂

God bless.
 
Orogeny said:
You are correct, homosexuality does not lead to bestiality. However, acceptance of homosexual activity as normal IS a slippery slope to the acceptance of other types of deviant sex, including bestiality. Quite honestly, I’m more concerned about the, in my opinion, inevitable coming push to accept pedophilia as normal.

Peace

Tim
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I agree, its almost a daily event to hear of adults being caught with underage kids, after so long, people will become desensitized by it… the next step is slow acceptance.
 
GEddie said:
In 1985, gay activity was nowhere near as unacceptable as pedophilia is now.

It was then less welcome than now, in part because of the AIDS fear then at its height, but there was already a thriving and expanding “gay community” and even some mass sympathy, due to the youth dying of AIDS.

ICXC NIKA
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Well, if you go back further, there was a point where the public viewed gay people as disgusting, evil and wrong, I may have been off on the time frame, but nevertheless, there was still such a time, as there is right now, regarding people who have sex with children.

Dont get me wrong though, Im totally against both of these things, I think gay sex is evil and disgusting, I feel the same way about sex with children, but Im only 1 person, plus, we all know Satan is heavily influencing society and the direction its going, so its only natural to accept that such things will likely become ‘the norm’.
 
mikekle said:
I agree, its almost a daily event to hear of adults being caught with underage kids, after so long, people will become desensitized by it… the next step is slow acceptance.
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You could be right. And I don’t know where it might stop. I mean, I never heard of anyone being beheaded when I was growing up. Now it seems to happen very other week. How long before we all come to accept it and treat it as normal behaviour?

Oh, wait. That’s really a dumb argument. I don’t know what I was thinking…
 
GEddie said:
In 1985, gay activity was nowhere near as unacceptable as pedophilia is now.
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That’s absurd. Pedophilia is not acceptable at all and to suggest that “society” accepts it is …stupid.
 
NeedsMercy said:
People of compassion, particularly Christians, should care about whether God’s creatures are being abused. It’s not a waste of time to care for some of us. Open your heart.
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I certainly don’t want to see animals harmed.
 
on_the_hill said:
That’s absurd. Pedophilia is not acceptable at all and to suggest that “society” accepts it is …stupid.
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I didn’t say that it was.

I was disagreeing that gay activities were equally unacceptable in 1985.

ICXC NIKA
 
GEddie said:
I didn’t say that it was.

I was disagreeing that gay activities were equally unacceptable in 1985.

ICXC NIKA
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Then I misunderdtood about the pedo part. But gay activity was not as unacceptable as pedophilia in 1985.
 
exnihilo said:
I’m pretty sure the church teaches that sin leads to more sin, which is often new types of sin, by wounding the soul. Every sin wounds the soul. Homosexuality would not be exempt.
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What a stretch! Then you could say that any sin leads to bestiality and pedophilia. Today, you tell a white lie; tomorrow, you’re having sex with a dolphin. Just a matter of time, right? :rolleyes: Like I said, even the Church doesn’t make such ridiculous claims.
 
mikekle said:
Its always been my opinion that the current LGBT groups fighting for more rights, are going to open the doors to all kinds of crazy things in the near future, I think before too long, gay marriage will be protected at the federal level in every state, they have been changing public perception of gay people over the past decade or so, and its working…its quite normal to see gay sex scenes on tv shows, movies, when this kind of thing would have never happened just 10-15 yrs ago. This is just the beginning imo,

Ive seen tv shows about people who actually are in love with objects, (cars, animals, one guy it was balloons, another was literally trying to marry his car, he also claimed he had ‘sex’ with this car regularly lol), I dont doubt that this is happening either, I have a feeling once the LGBT crowd gets all they want, the next group ‘in line’ will start fighting for their rights, probably using the same tactics the LGBT groups used successfully, They will slowly change public perception of their ‘interests’ no matter how crazy or wrong it initially seems, it happened with the gay crowd, no reason why it wont be the exact same for other groups out there too. (people who desire relationships with animals, children, objects, etc.)

We are definitely heading down a bad road when it comes to this topic! I think its scary how they can change public perception in such a relatively short amount of time too.
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Again, the distinction is whether or not someone is being harmed. Gay couples are consenting adults; children are not. Animals are being abused by bestiality; automobiles who are the objects of someone’s sexual desire are not being harmed. I don’t lose sleep worrying about whether or not homosexuality is going to spawn the acceptance of all sorts of perversions. There are more serious issues about which to worry.
 
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