A message from the “resistance” in the WH

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Or there is truth in it. Where there is smoke, there is fire
 
Inisfallen said:
And on and on it will go, forever.

This all started with Newt Gingrich. It’s time to stop. We elected Donald Trump, an unusual (to say the least) choice. Let the chips fall where they may. But let’s stop.
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Nonsense. It started with the attacks on people like Ray Donavon during the Reagan years.

But I agree. Let’s stop.
 
niceatheist said:
That’s rather like blaming the sheep for the poor shepherd. Want a more professional white house, start with the man in the oval office.
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I suspect your opinion would be / will be different when the resistance is against a progressive president.
What you think of Trump is no reason for subversion
 
I work for the Führer but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

Führer Hitler is facing a test to his chancellery unlike any faced by a modern German leader.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made Germany safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the Führer continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of the fatherland.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single slogan: ein volk, ein Reich, ein Führer.
 
niceatheist said:
That’s rather like blaming the sheep for the poor shepherd. Want a more professional white house, start with the man in the oval office.
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Here is the post you responded to but didn’t address.
JonNC said:
Please. Name me one weasel inside the Obama WH working to undermine his presidency from the inside. List all of the networks and newspapers that worked with Deep State moles to leak information and spread lies as has happened over the last 18 months.
How many protesters disrupted the hearings for Kagan and Sotomayor.
Yes. The Republicans in the Congress tried to stop Obama’s policies. They didn’t resort to subversive practices.
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In other words, you had no response to these.
 
Avdima said:
I work for the Führer but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

Führer Hitler is facing a test to his chancellery unlike any faced by a modern German leader.
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The Fuhrer? What are you talking about?

If you are talking about Trump the claim that he is a fascist is idiotic. A claim that he is a Nazi is over the top stupid
Fascism teaches strong central government. Trump has proven over and over he is not a centralist.
Fascism teaches socialism, that the state should either strictly control or own the means of production. Trump has shown no inclination to that.
Hitler hated the Jews. Trump has been an incredible ally of the Jews, including placing our embassy in their capital.

Based on these central tenants, the charge of Nazism is less applicable to Trump than to Obama, and Obama is no Nazi.

Actually, what you seem to be promoting is far more black shirt than anything Trump has done.
 
JonNC said:
Nonsense. It started with the attacks on people like Ray Donavon during the Reagan years.
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I remember Ray Donovan, and New Yorkers my age and older might remember some of the controversies surrounding him and his construction company, Schiavone Construction and its somewhat unsavory business associates. There were some legitimate questions about the appropriateness of his selection as a cabinet member, especially as secretary of labor, and I suspect the Reagan Administration knew they were in for a fight when they tossed his name into the ring.

Reagan was sending a message to organized labor, just as he did in the PATCO situation.

I don’t think the Donovan kerfuffle was an example of “resistance.” The administration wanted that fight. It’s not comparable.
 
Inisfallen said:
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JonNC:
Nonsense. It started with the attacks on people like Ray Donavon during the Reagan years.
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I remember Ray Donovan, and New Yorkers my age and older might remember some of the controversies surrounding him and his construction company, Schiavone Construction and its somewhat unsavory business associates. There were some legitimate questions about the appropriateness of his selection as a cabinet member, especially as secretary of labor, and I suspect the Reagan Administration knew they were in for a fight when they tossed his name into the ring.

Reagan was sending a message to organized labor, just as he did in the PATCO situation.

I don’t think the Donovan kerfuffle was an example of “resistance.” The administration wanted that fight. It’s not comparable.
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I remember Ray Donavon too, and his comment after being found innocent: roughly, “how do I get my reputation back?”

Maybe you like Ed Meese better. Either way, that’s where this politics of personal destruction started, with the goal of resisting by means other than a debate of ideas.

PATCO was an illegal strike. Reagan gave them every chance to return to their jobs. Reagan was sending an appropriate message to federal employees.
 
I opened the door to this, I guess. My own fault. Lesson learned.

Also, nothing I said contradicts anything you said.
 
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sallybutler said:
Except this sounds like it is a Republican deep state.
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How would you know? The writer is anonymous. Considering the voting patterns of DC metro area voters, it’s actually much more likely that the author is a Democrat.
 
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The author is a White House appointee. Not an elected official. The author also fears for their job.
 
What work are they doing?

And I know people who dislike Trump are hopeful but what makes anyone think this person is actually real? Or that their charges are, if they are? This reads like something a 17 year-old emo boy who cant get a date would right, not a cabinet member.

This reads like season 2 of 24, except the silly melodrama of whoever wrote that piece is, well, silly.

At some point, media and those who didn’t elect Trump had better realize their efforts to remove and undo the presidency is only going to lead to civil war. People dont like feeling as though their rights and stake is being taken from them. Badmouthing someone in an effort to beat them in an election is one thing. Trying to topple legitimately elected people from office because you don’t like them is how civil wars start. And if people thing this sort of attitude and tactics will just end with Trump, they are naive. It is only going to get worse the next time a Democrat is elected. Look at the Democrats changing the voting rules on federal judges to suit them. Then the Republicans did it for ussc candidates. And so on. The people who justify this sort of destruction of the republic and its system to suit their current desires are the same people who justify assassinations for the greater good.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
Then the person can no longer continue to do the good work he or she is doing.
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How is it good to have a secret cabal working from within to overthrow the legitimately elected President of a democratic republic?
LeafByNiggle said:
That would be counter-productive.
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But it would be honest…and how things are supposed to be done.
F_Marturana said:
The author is a White House appointee. Not an elected official. The author also fears for their job.
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So the person is a coward unwilling to risk anything for his/her convictions…
Dr_Meinheimer said:
And I know people who dislike Trump are hopeful but what makes anyone think this person is actually real?
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It wouldn’t be the first time someone at the Times just made stuff up…
 
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Does Trump have Democrats working for him? I thought they were all Republicans.
 
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