A Mother, a Sick Son, and His Father, the Priest

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Please honesty, let me get your honest reponse but please don’t judge. We must remember that our lord is the only one who rightously do that. Also I don’t know if this has already been posted but still I want to know everyone’s thoughts about this. I can’t believe this has happened in our own church.

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www.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/us/16priest.html

Please honesty, let me get your honest reponse but please don’t judge. We must remember that our lord is the only one who rightously do that. Also I don’t know if this has already been posted but still I want to know everyone’s thoughts about this. I can’t believe this has happened in our own church.

Thank you,

Art321
Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.’
They all dropped their stones and left. The older one’s first.
See Mt.7;1-5 for further insight.

God bless,
bluelake
 
Hmm… :hmmm: the NYTimes probably was giddy to report this scandal.
The relationship between Ms. Bond and the priest is hardly unique. While the recent scandals involving the Roman Catholic Church have focused on the sexual abuse of children, experts say that incidences of priests who have violated sexual and emotional boundaries with adult women are far more common.
Clergy members of many faiths have crossed the line with women and had children out of wedlock. But the problem is particularly fraught for the Catholic Church, as Catholics in many countries are increasingly questioning the celibacy requirement for priests. Ms. Bond’s case offers a rare look at how the church goes to great lengths to silence these women, to avoid large settlements and to keep the priests in active ministry. She has 23 years of documents, depositions, correspondence, receipts and photographs relating to her case, which she has kept in meticulous files.
the NYTimes is being boastful, suggesting to unfaithful / ignorant Catholics that our institution is “old fashioned, and needs to get with the times”

and they even post a picture that seems “hardly objectionable” to a viewer from the outside. Satan’s work, to goad on the idea “why does the Catholic church keep that stupid celibacy rule?”
The Rev. Henry Willenborg, a Roman Catholic priest in Quincy, Ill., in 1987 performing the baptism of his son, Nathan.
I say–and here’s an honest suggestion–that every time, we Catholics see these news snippets endorsed by Anti-Catholic forces–which are meant to razz our faith, to discourage–rather than feel forlorn or despair about the priests who fall trap to scandal and sin, we should say a prayer to strengthen our loyal priests, and pray for the errant priests to repent.

This is the year of the priest, therefore, we should remember to pray for them often, especially in these times when our Church needs to recollect and revitalize itself. The healthier the priests are, the less damage articles like these have on the sheep they’re trying to prey upon. They’re trying to sow opposition amongst the Lay Catholics against her Church.
 
Hmm… :hmmm: the NYTimes probably was giddy to report this scandal.

the NYTimes is being boastful, suggesting to unfaithful / ignorant Catholics that our institution is “old fashioned, and needs to get with the times”

and they even post a picture that seems “hardly objectionable” to a viewer from the outside. Satan’s work, to goad on the idea “why does the Catholic church keep that stupid celibacy rule?”
I say–and here’s an honest suggestion–that every time, we Catholics see these news snippets endorsed by Anti-Catholic forces–which are meant to razz our faith, to discourage–rather than feel forlorn or despair about the priests who fall trap to scandal and sin, we should say a prayer to strengthen our loyal priests, and pray for the errant priests to repent.

This is the year of the priest, therefore, we should remember to pray for them often, especially in these times when our Church needs to recollect and revitalize itself. The healthier the priests are, the less damage articles like these have on the sheep they’re trying to prey upon. They’re trying to sow opposition amongst the Lay Catholics against her Church.
I am with you thst we as a whole church must pray for all of our priests. I believe that most of our priests are not like this that all and with God’s grace I pray that this will never change. Our priests are truly a gift of god and they are the best in the world.
 
Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.’
They all dropped their stones and left. The older one’s first.
See Mt.7;1-5 for further insight.

God bless,
bluelake
Thank you for the quote but if only others would understand it this way.

Anyway god bless,

Art321
 
Let me get this straight. In her mind (and apparently that of the NY Times) the church is responsible for her child? In this world of “logic” if I have an affair that produces a child the woman can sue my employer for child support. I wonder how that works.
 
I know the OP asked us not to judge, but I view the New York Times as having an anti-Catholic bias. I’m not dismissing the story as false, but I question the presentation. I’m curious if all interested parties are satisfied with the way their actions were reported.
 
I don’t know how you can think this article showed an anti-Catholic bias. Unless you think it was anti-Catholic to report it at all.

If it was written with a pro-Catholic bias, how might it have looked different?
 
I said the New York Times has an anti-Catholic bias, which I could go on about, but that’s not appropriate to this topic.

Regarding this article, however, look at the statement they report Father Willenborg as saying: “We’ve been very caring, very supportive, very generous over these 20-something years. It’s very tragic what’s going on with Nathan, but, you know?” That’s it? That’s all? The mother and the son weighed some very heavy accusations, are we expected to believe he has nothing else to say in response to them?

Look at how the piece ends, for heaven’s sake, "“I never understood,” Nathan said, “why he thought cards could make it all O.K.” Really? Really??? This isn’t journalism, this is leveraging real life dirty laundry to make Tiny Tim Cratchit’s woes look like Christmas pudding. It’s shameful.

I’ll pray for all the parties involved, including the ‘journalist’.
 
I would only buy that rag to line a birdcage …that is what I think
 
I said the New York Times has an anti-Catholic bias, which I could go on about, but that’s not appropriate to this topic.

Regarding this article, however, look at the statement they report Father Willenborg as saying: “We’ve been very caring, very supportive, very generous over these 20-something years. It’s very tragic what’s going on with Nathan, but, you know?” That’s it? That’s all? The mother and the son weighed some very heavy accusations, are we expected to believe he has nothing else to say in response to them?

Look at how the piece ends, for heaven’s sake, "“I never understood,” Nathan said, “why he thought cards could make it all O.K.” Really? Really??? This isn’t journalism, this is leveraging real life dirty laundry to make Tiny Tim Cratchit’s woes look like Christmas pudding. It’s shameful.

I’ll pray for all the parties involved, including the ‘journalist’.
Please, remember that we are no one to judge. Although I still don’t quite understand it as to why there is so much hated to us, we must always pray for everyone even if they hate us to the core.
 
I don’t seem to understand what you are trying to say.
This whole article is a sin of detraction only printed to do as much damage to the church as it could

If you want to encourage filth like this in a paper be my guest , just don’t expect me to chime in to dish the dirt with you
 
This whole article is a sin of detraction only printed to do as much damage to the church as it could

If you want to encourage filth like this in a paper be my guest , just don’t expect me to chime in to dish the dirt with you
I wasn’t trying to do anything, I just didn’t quite get your point. If I offended you, my apologies.
 
The following article was submitted in a slightly shorter form to the New York Times as an op-ed article. The Times declined to publish it. I thought you might be interested in reading it.

FOUL BALL!
By Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan
Archbishop of New York

October is the month we relish the highpoint of our national pastime, especially when one of our own New York teams is in the World Series!

Sadly, America has another national pastime, this one not pleasant at all: anti-catholicism.

It is not hyperbole to call prejudice against the Catholic Church a national pastime. Scholars such as Arthur Schlesinger Sr. referred to it as “the deepest bias in the history of the American people,” while John Higham described it as “the most luxuriant, tenacious tradition of paranoiac agitation in American history.” “The anti-semitism of the left,” is how Paul Viereck reads it, and Professor Philip Jenkins sub-titles his book on the topic “the last acceptable prejudice.”

If you want recent evidence of this unfairness against the Catholic Church, look no further than a few of these following examples of occurrences over the last couple weeks:

On October 14, in the pages of the New York Times, reporter Paul Vitello exposed the sad extent of child sexual abuse in Brooklyn’s Orthodox Jewish community. According to the article, there were forty cases of such abuse in this tiny community last year alone. Yet the Times did not demand what it has called for incessantly when addressing the same kind of abuse by a tiny minority of priests: release of names of abusers, rollback of statute of limitations, external investigations, release of all records, and total transparency. Instead, an attorney is quoted urging law enforcement officials to recognize “religious sensitivities,” and no criticism was offered of the DA’s office for allowing Orthodox rabbis to settle these cases “internally.” Given the Catholic Church’s own recent horrible experience, I am hardly in any position to criticize our Orthodox Jewish neighbors, and have no wish to do so . . . but I can criticize this kind of “selective outrage.”
Of course, this selective outrage probably should not surprise us at all, as we have seen many other examples of the phenomenon in recent years when it comes to the issue of sexual abuse. To cite but two: In 2004, Professor Carol Shakeshaft documented the wide-spread problem of sexual abuse of minors in our nation’s public schools (the study can be found here). In 2007, the Associated Press issued a series of investigative reports that also showed the numerous examples of sexual abuse by educators against public school students. Both the Shakeshaft study and the AP reports were essentially ignored, as papers such as the New York Times only seem to have priests in their crosshairs.

On October 16, Laurie Goodstein of the Times offered a front page, above-the-fold story on the sad episode of a Franciscan priest who had fathered a child. Even taking into account that the relationship with the mother was consensual and between two adults, and that the Franciscans have attempted to deal justly with the errant priest’s responsibilities to his son, this action is still sinful, scandalous, and indefensible. However, one still has to wonder why a quarter-century old story of a sin by a priest is now suddenly more pressing and newsworthy than the war in Afghanistan, health care, and starvation–genocide in Sudan. No other cleric from religions other than Catholic ever seems to merit such attention.
Five days later, October 21, the Times gave its major headline to the decision by the Vatican to welcome Anglicans who had requested union with Rome. Fair enough. Unfair, though, was the article’s observation that the Holy See lured and bid for the Anglicans. Of course, the reality is simply that for years thousands of Anglicans have been asking Rome to be accepted into the Catholic Church with a special sensitivity for their own tradition. As Cardinal Walter Kasper, the Vatican’s chief ecumenist, observed, “We are not fishing in the Anglican pond.” Not enough for the Times; for them, this was another case of the conniving Vatican luring and bidding unsuspecting, good people, greedily capitalizing on the current internal tensions in Anglicanism.
Finally, the most combustible example of all came Sunday with an intemperate and scurrilous piece by Maureen Dowd on the opinion pages of the Times. In a diatribe that rightly never would have passed muster with the editors had it so criticized an Islamic, Jewish, or African-American religious issue, she digs deep into the nativist handbook to use every anti-Catholic caricature possible, from the Inquisition to the Holocaust, condoms, obsession with sex, pedophile priests, and oppression of women, all the while slashing Pope Benedict XVI for his shoes, his forced conscription — along with every other German teenage boy — into the German army, his outreach to former Catholics, and his recent welcome to Anglicans.
True enough, the matter that triggered her spasm — the current visitation of women religious by Vatican representatives — is well-worth discussing, and hardly exempt from legitimate questioning. But her prejudice, while maybe appropriate for the Know-Nothing newspaper of the 1850’s, the Menace, has no place in a major publication today.

to be continued
 
pt 2

do not mean to suggest that anti-catholicism is confined to the pages New York Times. Unfortunately, abundant examples can be found in many different venues. I will not even begin to try and list the many cases of anti-catholicism in the so-called entertainment media, as they are so prevalent they Isometimes seem almost routine and obligatory. Elsewhere, last week, Representative Patrick Kennedy made some incredibly inaccurate and uncalled-for remarks concerning the Catholic bishops, as mentioned in this blog on Monday. Also, the New York State Legislature has levied a special payroll tax to help the Metropolitan Transportation Authority fund its deficit. This legislation calls for the public schools to be reimbursed the cost of the tax; Catholic schools, and other private schools, will not receive the reimbursement, costing each of the schools thousands – in some cases tens of thousands – of dollars, money that the parents and schools can hardly afford. (Nor can the archdiocese, which already underwrites the schools by $30 million annually.) Is it not an issue of basic fairness for ALL school-children and their parents to be treated equally?

The Catholic Church is not above criticism. We Catholics do a fair amount of it ourselves. We welcome and expect it. All we ask is that such critique be fair, rational, and accurate, what we would expect for anybody. The suspicion and bias against the Church is a national pastime that should be “rained out” for good.

I guess my own background in American history should caution me not to hold my breath.

Then again, yesterday was the Feast of Saint Jude, the patron saint of impossible causes.
 
The sadest thing about stories like this is that our secular critics are sucessfully making the average population believe that most of our priests are sexual deviants where they are discussing maybe a percent of a percent of priests have sexual disorders. I feel sorry for the vast majority of priest out there trying to live the life they are called to who have to deal with this stigma every day.

Father Corapi once discussed this by stating that the past few years has been the hardest time of his life because of the loneliness caused by this slandering. He said that a priest cannot be seen with a child by himself because people would question whether he was a child molestor. He couldn’t be seen with a women because they would question if something was going on and he could be seen with another man because of the questioning of homosexuality. I just couldn’t imagine dealing with this stigma every day as they do.
 
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