It’s funny how relativists always seek to ignore ‘intent’.Really it’s to bad. I had relatives who fought with the Canadians in WWII when we were on the same side against tyranny. Now Canada persecutes Christianity and tolerates islamic extremism. Ironic that you are actually helping the modern equivalent of fascists while calling us fascist for fighting them.
I am sure it is a poetical device and I would like to actually see the brodcast before commenting more.I agree, so why in the world would Palestinian children’s television shows be broadcasting songs that refer to blood as having a “sweet fragrance”? It’s very disturbing and unnatural.
murdering people does not make one a martyr. A martyr is a witness. Not a terrorist. You can call it a false doctrine all you want (and I hope that more and more muslims will come out and say this), but the fact is that Islam obviously leaves room for this interpetation. You have muslim clerics saying as much. And you have muslims dancing in the streets when these acts occur. You have muslim parents bragging about thier children’s sacrifice of thier lives in this manner. The Quran may have a few sentences about how one must not destroy themselves… but it also has loopholes big enough to fly a plane through.I am sure it is a poetical device and I would like to actually see the brodcast before commenting more.
If someone is going around literally saying blood smells sweet then they are sick. If they are saying such as a poetical device to describe giving your life up because you obeyed God then that is another matter.
Is the blood of the Catholic martyrs holy and sweet in the sense that they died for doing what they thought was right?
Humbly speaking----- am I to assume that it is a teaching of Christianity that two men can get married in holy matrimony because a few Episcopal priests say that it is?+ Or that Christianity teaches it is alright to be corrupt because a couple of popes in the past had poor ethics and morals?Another Muslim on this forum, from Egypt, told us that only one sect uses the term takkiya, but he acknowleged that it’s a real teaching of Islam.
Again, I do not accept hadith as authoritative nor do many Muslims. The hadith are supposed sayings and practices of the Prophet found outside of the Holy Quran. While some of the hadith may be poosibly from the time of his life and true most came into existence several hundred years after the Prophet’s death. A lot of them were the creation of wicked men to satisfy their own wicked and evil desires. Some of the hadith contradict the Holy Quran as well as each other. For this reason I do not accept them as authority. If there is any truth to any hadith I believe that whatever they say will be complimented and not contradicted by the Holy Quran.He allowed someone to lie, in order to murder another…
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, “You may say it.” Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, “That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you.” On that, Kab said, “By Allah, you will get tired of him!” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food.” (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, “Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me.” Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, “What do you want?” Ka’b replied, “Mortgage your women to me.” They said, “How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?” Ka’b said, “Then mortgage your sons to me.” They said, “How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people’s saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you.” Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab’s foster brother, Abu Na’ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, “Where are you going at this time?” Kab replied, “None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na’ila have come.” His wife said, “I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka’b said. “They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed.” Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, “When Ka’b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head.” Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka’b replied. “I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume.” Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka’b “Will you allow me to smell your head?” Ka’b said, “Yes.” Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka’b again, “Will you let me (smell your head)?” Ka’b said, “Yes.” When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), “Get at him!” So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf.”
usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.369
Do you have a link?BH, one muslim did that in Oklahoma. They kicked him out and he received death threats. Do you condemn Hamas and Hezbullah?
Here is a link to many disturbing broadcasts for children:I am sure it is a poetical device and I would like to actually see the brodcast before commenting more.
If someone is going around literally saying blood smells sweet then they are sick. If they are saying such as a poetical device to describe giving your life up because you obeyed God then that is another matter.
Is the blood of the Catholic martyrs holy and sweet in the sense that they died for doing what they thought was right?
I agree with you 100%. Murdering people and getting killed for it does not make one a martyr.murdering people does not make one a martyr. A martyr is a witness. Not a terrorist. You can call it a false doctrine all you want (and I hope that more and more muslims will come out and say this), but the fact is that Islam obviously leaves room for this interpetation. You have muslim clerics saying as much. And you have muslims dancing in the streets when these acts occur. You have muslim parents bragging about thier children’s sacrifice of thier lives in this manner. The Quran may have a few sentences about how one must not destroy themselves… but it also has loopholes big enough to fly a plane through.
The little duck is talking about avenging his home being destroyed. It is my understanding that Israelis knock down Palestinians homes to build their own on or simply to drive out people not liked. I have never been to ISrael and talked to the Jews or the Palestinians first hand so I don’t know all the details.Here is a link to many disturbing broadcasts for children:
youtube.com/results?search_query=Palestinian+TV+children&search=Search
One example of the idea that blood has a sweet fragrance is in this song with the words “How sweet is the fragrance of the *shahids, *how sweet is the fragrance of the earth, it’s thirst quenched by the gush of blood flowing from the youthful body, how sweet is the fragrance of the earth”.
youtube.com/watch?v=FWmHrCA0v_0
In this instance, the sweet fragrance of the earth comes from the smell of the blood that flowed out onto it from a dead child.
Specifically, the chick/duck is asked what he would do to a little boy if he came and cut the trees down in front of his house. His response, on a children’s program, was that he would “fight him and make a big riot, call the whole world and make a riot, I’ll bring AK-47s and the whole world, I’ll commit a massacre in front of the house.”Regarding the first link/ The little duck is talking about avenging his home being destroyed. It is my understanding that Israelis knock down Palestinians homes to build their own on or simply to drive out people not liked. I have never been to ISrael and talked to the Jews or the Palestinians first hand so I don’t know all the details.
The second one, I believe, is a Palestinian song and music video with an actor playing the role of a real boy whose *real *death by the Israeli army was aired on Palestinian TV.The second one is simply bull. The woman in the film singing isn’t even wearing a hijaab like she is supposed to. If they are so ignorant of Islam so as to put a non-hijaabed woman on it it singing I seriously doubt the rest of their theology is worthy of serious consideration. However, the film never says why the father died nor why. What was so offensive to you about it?
This video at least had the women wearing their hijaab.There are many videos from my first link that encourage children to seek martyrdom and, as a side effect, it teaches them to worship death. This video was unusual in that it does not show the brainwashing of children to encourage them seek death. This video shows a 3-year-old girl referring to Jews as “apes and pigs”. This girl is praised as a good and devout Muslim:
youtube.com/watch?v=9r5iLhreGEg
This page discusses the relevent passages from the Quran:Where does it say in the Holy Quran that Jews are apes and pigs?
It is a very frustrating situation, for muslims and non-muslims alike. I’m sure you don’t relish haveing every discussion about your religion end up revolving around terrorism.I agree with you 100%. Murdering people and getting killed for it does not make one a martyr.
The Holy Quran says many things about fighting Jihad like not killing innocent people, civilians, surrendering combatants, ect.
Where these supposed nuts are getting their ideas about what God wants is really the devil.
Um…the KKK is anti-Catholic. I have never heard of a Catholic “praising” the actions of the KKK or other White Power Protestant groups.if you really dont believe this form of racial hatred is acceptable why dont you go get your catholic priest to oppose it publiclly in his sermons!!!
Thank you for your links. Notice that Jews themselves are not apes and pigs but certain sabbath breakers among Jews were turned into apes and swine. There is a big difference between saying all Jews are pigs and apes and saying that God turned certain of the sabbath breakers into such.This page discusses the relevent passages from the Quran:
answering-islam.de/Main/Authors/Arlandson/jew_apes.htm
One of the last clips on this video of children’s shows is of an Iranian claymation program that has Jewish vendors turning into apes:
youtube.com/watch?v=_hBuiSP8X6E
No problemo.It is a very frustrating situation, for muslims and non-muslims alike. I’m sure you don’t relish haveing every discussion about your religion end up revolving around terrorism.
I responded to your earlier posts assuming I knew where you stood and what rhetoric you were going to repeat. I apologize for that.