It’s mystifying why you’re against correct medical and scientific terminology.
These are all sentient. However, we do rationalize based on brain development and maturity the date at which many rights are given, such as driving and drinking. Discriminating by age is nothing new.
If I was aborted, I wouldn’t have known I ever lived. I would be in the same position as a person who was never conceived at all. Therefore every moment spent outside of sex is bad.
Apart from being derogatory towards women, it may not be possible to determine sex so early, when most abortions occur.
Of course not. Babies are sentient, fetuses aren’t.
To be truly not self centred, one would have to give away their property and live as a monk.
Is it moral to limit the potential of a person? It is sad to see someone that could have had a full career relegated to fast food service. Obviously, this is better than murder, but as you can see, I am arguing abortion is not murder.
Thank you.
You might find, if you looked, statistics that show the suicide rate among adopted children are far higher than that of the general population.
I’m interested into your theory of how the number of organisms can increase past the bounds of natural resources. This could be a real scientific breakthrough.
If your second sentence is along the lines of “what would the fetus be if allowed to progress normally”, then the answer is probably a human being. However, wood is no more than wood, whether inside or outside a carpenter’s shop.
No, but they have been sentient before, and should be assumed to be only temporarily comatose. They have memories, they have loved ones, they have lived life up until that point. A fetus has not, and the brain would never develop to ever know it even existed. Comatose patients who are brain dead are breathing corpses and should only be kept alive if the family wishes.
For the discussion of sentience, see my post above.
(BTW, how can you say that babies are sentient but a fetus is not? Do you think that neuron receptors don’t kick in until after they’re out of the womb? I really don’t understand this logic, so I’m really asking how you came to that determination)
Knowing that a child’s gender is determined from the point of conception is third grade biology (or maybe biology 101 for some who went to public school. I, however, went to private school, and learned it in 3rd grade). Women have eggs, which are represented by chromosome X. Men have sperm, represented by chromosomes X and Y. If the sperm that wins out is X, the offspring is female. If the sperm that wins out is a Y, the offspring is male. XX is female, XY is male. Just because we don’t have the technology to test the child in the womb, doesn’t mean the gender isn’t determined. I shouldn’t have to post links for this. However, here is one link about the science of this fact of life, and one link to an article on a study that was released just today about a scientific breakthrough in being able to test for gender at 5 weeks:
infoplease.com/askeds/determining-sex-offspring.html
news.com.au/national/baby-gender-test-after-just-five-weeks-is-research-holy-grail/story-e6frfkvr-1225818285842
And most women don’t usually know that they’re pregnant until that time, and most abortions occur around 10-12 weeks.
As for being able to ask any embryos as to whether they would be killed or not, let’s look at the cases of abortion survivors:
realchoice.0catch.com/dreadcomplication.htm
That link contains many links on the subject of survivors They were ALL rather offended when they found out that they were supposed to be aborted.
Your population theory is debunked, we have ways of helping women cope with living their lives while still giving life, we’ve asked the opinions of children who were aborted, are there any other objections you have?
Oh, and I’m a woman, and I’m offended by abortion. I see it as misogynistic, abusive to women, and a way for men to not cope with consequences of their actions. My aunt died because she had Post Abortion Stress Syndrome, which pushed her into alcoholism. It was all because her husband, who she later found out was cheating on her, forced her to get an abortion. Also, before you say that I shouldn’t let one case ruin it for the rest of society, it’s not just one case. It’s hundreds of thousands of cases.
64% of abortions are forced, & 80% of women who abort say they were never given any other option.
There are the health risks involved: post abortion stress syndrome, sleep disorders, anxiety/nervous disorders, grief, eating disorders, substance abuse, divorce, chronic relationship problems, self punishment, child abuse, suicide, breast cancer, cervical caner, ovarian cancer, liver cancer, uterine perforations, cervical lacerations, endometriosis, infection, excessive bleeding, embolism, ripping of the uterus, anesthesia complications, convulsions, hemorrhage, cervical injury, toxic shock, fever, chronic abdominal pains, second degree burns, Rh sensitization, vomiting, & gastro-intestinal disturbances. All of these can cause death, & most of these often do.
Abortion is anti-women. Do NOT use my fellow sisters and me as a means of justifying your agenda. Before you use women in your justification, you ought to look at some of the stories of women who have had an abortion:
feministsforlife.org/voices/index.htm
standupgirl.com/
theunchoice.com/coerced.htm
unfairchoice.info/intro.htm
feministsforlife.org/taf/2004/summer-fall/Summer-Fall04.pdf
gargaro.com/abortion/stories.html
realchoice.0catch.com/rapeandincest.htm
realchoice.0catch.com/personalaccounts.htm