A new look at the TRINITY

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Since Gnosticism and Sabellianism both have been condemmed by the church there is no doubt that her private revelaion is not of God. Her so-called revealtion smacks of both.
 
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Do we only speak in these forums of what is written in holy books? Do we not allow for spiritual inspiration of common folks like me or Jennifer or you? Are we saying that is all in the past or reserved only for those few now who would become saints? Do we think it must be unmistakeable, clearly understood in that moment (like handwriting on a wall or words heard) and not an image to be considered, a “clue” to urge you on, confirmed by more inspiration? That would be a sad commentary on our times. If true, it would be an attempt by the dark one to take away from my life one of the most meaningful and glorious moments in it: maybe 60 seconds of being close to a spirit that is close to God, perhaps the Holy Spirit itself, showing me an image of my failed heart with a valuable complex message to be found, one that two years later was proven by science to be factual! What is your version of Divine Inspiration or Revelation?
Gene
 
The Cross in Our Bodies

This is a pretty neat story and an interesting thing that few of us know. It’s brief, so please read. (FROM A DOCTOR)

A couple of days ago I was running (I use that term very loosely) on my treadmill, watching a DVD sermon by Louie Giglio… And I was BLOWN AWAY! I want to share what I learned…

He (Louie) was talking about how inconceivably BIG our God is… How He spoke the universe into being… How He breathes stars out of His mouth that are huge raging balls of fire… Etc. Etc. Then He went on to speak of how this star-breathing, universe creating God ALSO knitted our human bodies together with amazing detail and wonder. At this point I am LOVING it (fascinating from a medical standpoint, you know.) . And I was remembering how I was constantly amazed during medical school as I learned more and more about God’s handiwork. I remember so many times thinking… ‘How can ANYONE deny that a Creator did all of this???’

Louie went on to talk about how we can trust that the God who created all this, also has the power to hold it all together when things seem to be falling apart…how our loving Creator is also our sustainer.

And then I lost my breath. And it wasn’t because I was running my treadmill, either!!!

It was because he started talking about laminin. I knew about laminin… Here is how Wikipedia

http://www.wikipedia.org/ describes them: ‘Laminins are a family of proteins that are an integral part of the structural scaffolding of basement membranes in almost every animal tissue’ You see… Laminins are what hold us together… LITERALLY. They are cell adhesion molecules. They are what holds one cell of our bodies to the next cell. Without them, we would literally fall apart. And I knew all this already. But what I didn’t know is what they LOOKED LIKE…

But now I do. And I have thought about it a thousand times since (already)…Here is what the structure of laminin looks like… AND THIS IS NOT a ‘Christian portrayal’ of it… If you look up laminin in any scientific/medical piece of literature, this is what you will see…

But now I do. And I have thought about it a thousand times since (already)…Here is what the structure of laminin looks like… AND THIS IS NOT a ‘Christian portrayal’ of it… If you look up laminin in any scientific/medical piece of literature, this is what you will see…

Now tell me that our God is not the coolest!!! Amazing. The glue that holds us together… ALL of us… Is in the shape of the cross. Immediately Colossians 1:15-17 comes to mind.

‘He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible And invisible, whether thrones or
powers or rulers or Authorities; All things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him All things HOLD TOGETHER.’

Call me crazy. I just think that is very, very, very cool. Thousands of years before the world knew anything about laminin, Paul penned those words. And now we see that from a very LITERAL standpoint, we are held together… One cell to another… By the cross.

You would never in a quadrillion years convince me that is anything other than the mark of a Creator who knew EXACTLY what laminin ‘glue’ would look like long before Adam breathed his first breath!!

God Bless US!
 
Gene_Ort said:
Do we only speak in these forums of what is written in holy books? Do we not allow for spiritual inspiration of common folks like me or Jennifer or you? Are we saying that is all in the past or reserved only for those few now who would become saints? Do we think it must be unmistakeable, clearly understood in that moment (like handwriting on a wall or words heard) and not an image to be considered, a “clue” to urge you on, confirmed by more inspiration? That would be a sad commentary on our times. If true, it would be an attempt by the dark one to take away from my life one of the most meaningful and glorious moments in it: maybe 60 seconds of being close to a spirit that is close to God, perhaps the Holy Spirit itself, showing me an image of my failed heart with a valuable complex message to be found, one that two years later was proven by science to be factual! What is your version of Divine Inspiration or Revelation?
Gene
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I believe we are not to post personal revelations on this board but we can discuss our feelings and thoughts about various things from scripture to theology to modern media. Personally, I’m not sure what constitutes a private revelation.

I do know that it is virtually impossible to know why someone is suspended or banned as the offending posts and sometimes entire threads are removed, and sometimes its as simple as someone who was previously banned taking on a new persona and reappearing.

It is best to take any questions regarding exactly where the line is drawn in moderating directly with a Mod in a private post - it is uncool to discuss this on a public board. There’s links to contact them in various places on the site. They don’t mind respectful questions (I did so when I was knew and uncertain about what would and wouldn’t garner a handslap).
 
Sorry. Won’t happen again. About the cross and laminin story: I suggest before posting stories like this, you might check it out for accuracy, maybe on Snopes? They have interesting comments about the cross shape worthy of consideration. The cross is a powerful symbol and misrepresenting it should not be allowed on the forum either. The representation of laminin as a cross is for instructional purposes, a drawing, but the molecular photo does not resemble a cross in any way. Sorry again.

I thought this forum was a place for a new look at the mystery of the Trinity. It’s not a mystery to me anymore but this is not the place to discuss it. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Gene
 
Gene_Ort said:
Considering the impact he had on the world, relatively few words are attributed to Yeshua in the Gospels. More actions than words. One of my favorite quotes is, “There are too many words . . .” Then, “The truth is in your heart.” He never used the word Trinity. Interesting don’t you think? Fact: more Christians were killed by Christians over the “ouisa” substance of Yeshua than by Roman emperors. We are still arguing over it.
I wrote a book Resonant Trinities (Tate Publishing) about what it means to be in the image of God. The image? A trinity of mind, heart, and spirit. A homomorphism of God’s image in us; a structure preserving mapping of one complex structure to another. Do you see/feel the trinity of mind, heart, and spirit in you? Why not in God? The only problem I have left is gender assignment when gender in the spiritual world is what is illogical, the word that started your discussion.
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  • (1) There was no Known “Trinity” until Our Lord was born as a full Human Being And fully Divine. The Apostles Baptized and Confirmed the Holy Spirit “In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit”.
  • (2) ‘All the religious wars’ is a false attack On Religion by those who falselly reject it. The Facts disprove ‘religious wars’; they were In Facts by Secular, political powers Using Religion/God as a central Motivator: The Terrorists of the last Decade are Violating Islamic Law and Allah’s teachings in (Their viewpoint) attacking our Threat, Invasion of Their Culture and Lands (our past Foreign Policy). The Crusades were only led by often power hungry or selfish Secular Leaders (Constantinople was Looted at request of the Venetian Banker Sponsors, to ‘collect’ massive overdue Loans to it.); the Greatest Wars and atrocities in History: the 20th Century, were by Atheists: Stalin/Hitler/Mao. The key, sensitive ‘Isreali/Palestinian’ conflicts have all been about ‘Removing’ the native now Palestinions from Their Homes, and Expanding Isreali Occupation, control, settlement in clearly defenseless “Palestinian” homes, farms, areas. The Reformation Religious Wars were Heavily for Land governance, control, and defense of their faiths. Offense has been called the best Defense.
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                                                                                                                           Gender  Assignment is   purelly   our Human nature trying to  figurativelly   'picture'  the  Divine,    except   our Lord's  Picture Is  available: the  scientifically  Authenticated  last  2  decades  "Shroud of Turin"   (search That science website)
 
Gene_Ort said:
Do we only speak in these forums of what is written in holy books? Do we not allow for spiritual inspiration of common folks like me or Jennifer or you? Are we saying that is all in the past or reserved only for those few now who would become saints? Do we think it must be unmistakeable, clearly understood in that moment (like handwriting on a wall or words heard) and not an image to be considered, a “clue” to urge you on, confirmed by more inspiration? That would be a sad commentary on our times. If true, it would be an attempt by the dark one to take away from my life one of the most meaningful and glorious moments in it: maybe 60 seconds of being close to a spirit that is close to God, perhaps the Holy Spirit itself, showing me an image of my failed heart with a valuable complex message to be found, one that two years later was proven by science to be factual! What is your version of Divine Inspiration or Revelation?
Gene
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We certainly do find great inspirations from the problems and solutions here. Thanks for Your posting.
Luckily we have The Church of Christ: 1.3 Billion Roman and Orthodox, to offer the great wisdoms and inspirations of the 2 Millenia since. Most of us had failed hearts for Our Lord, His Church, until I was brought back by Prayers of Relatives and EWTN. The Bible is not even mentioned in The Bible. 1 Timothy 3:15 cites the Truth is in The Apostles/Disciples Then; as is continuing Now in The Church. My inspiration is every detail of The Church: Mass, Adoration 1-2 AM, EWTN, This Site, Reading about Saints, and I feel the Holy Spirit rebirth every Cinfession and Eucharist and Adoration.
Definitive Bible Scholar, expert Convert Dr Scott Hahn has written a very thought Provoking new Book about the meaning of the Mysteries of Revelation.
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=Gene Ort;8182032]Sorry. Won’t happen again. About the cross and laminin story: I suggest before posting stories like this, you might check it out for accuracy, maybe on Snopes? They have interesting comments about the cross shape worthy of consideration. The cross is a powerful symbol and misrepresenting it should not be allowed on the forum either. The representation of laminin as a cross is for instructional purposes, a drawing, but the molecular photo does not resemble a cross in any way. Sorry again.
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I thought this forum was a place for a new look at the mystery of the Trinity. It’s not a mystery to me anymore but this is not the place to discuss it. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Gene
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Thanks, I did ask a doctor and he confirmed it,

God Bless,
Pat
 
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