A nondenominational church planning 911 Quran-burning event.

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Muslims will not differentiate between minority Christians (nondenominational) and denominational ones, that action would create additional barriers between Christianity & Islam.
Burning the Quran will not solve anything, instead it will create more hatred and anger towards Christians in general, that nondenominational church should discuss with Muslims why they think it’s “a religion of the devil” through documentations and dialogues not through burning, and that nondenominational church should remember that the Pope of the highest denominational church in the world has kissed the Koran as a sign of respect back in 1999.
 
I agree that it is unnecessary provocation & dangerous. This will only cause more bloodshed. Burning a holy book, even one you dont agree with, is wrong no matter WHO is doing the burning. Sad
 
This news is sad and disgusting. As Christians we are called to love, and such an action as this will destroy much of what has been built in our interfaith relations. What is sadder to me is that this is occurring to a sister faith, if you will, another Abrahamic religion. While I personally believe the fullness of truth is to be found in Catholicism, I do believe that, because we are religious beings we are called to seek God and that God, because he created us primarily so he could love us and we him, has revealed a piece of his Truth to all peoples. Besides, even if one does not agree with the Koran, one should recognize it with respect as a valuable cultural text. No one burns Malaysian artifacts because they disagree with the Malaysian faith, for example (sorry for the inconsistency, I was helping a lady move recently, and she had a lot of Malaysian and Israeli items).
 
I totally agree with you Sam, why throw more fuel in the fire. Christians are still persecuted in predominantly Muslim countries, why give them a reason to justify their madness.
One thing that has nothing to do with this thread, we are not the largest denominational church in the world, the Catholic church is not a denomination, it is the Church, the other 30,000 churches are.
 
Does anyone else see a certain irony in this group’s name, The Dove World Outreach Center?
 
It is simply a stupid thing to do.

I have not read the entire article, I saw this:
“We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it’s causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times,” Pastor Terry Jones told CNN’s Rick Sanchez earlier this week.

And thought, How quickly this same pastor would, in all likelihood, attack the Catholic Church in much the same way - for the “inquisition”, or “idolotry” etc. but would not think of burning the “Catholic Holy Book” (The Bible). Why? because he would distinguish between those who made errors and those who were “True Christians”. In other words He would not blame “the book” for the sins of some of it’s adherants.

This thing will serve no ones purpose except the devil himself.

Peace
James
 
Giovanni said:
Christians are still persecuted in predominantly Muslim countries, why give them a reason to justify their madness.
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That might just be read as saying that more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide are all insane, and burning the holy book of more than 5 million US citizens isn’t persecution. I didn’t read it like that, just saying. 🙂

The weird thing is that members of this “church” will each have to buy a Quran in order to burn one!

Their website is full of hate, not one word of love. Here’s their führer on CNN:
edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/florida.burn.quran.day/?hpt=C2#fbid=P_VArIz0Hox
 
This is stupid. Hopefully it ends like that group who planned to burn a bunch of Bibles last year because they weren’t the one true KJV version, but didn’t due to legal worries.

Active desecration of anything any religion holds holy, within reason, is wrong.
 
This is truly sad and more than a little hateful.

Unfortunately, just as many Americans lump all Muslims into the same group, the reverse is also true.

Many Muslims think of Christians as a single group and this will appear to some to be just another attack by Christians on Muslims.

After viewing their website, I would wonder what they believe. It is certainly not one of support, love or caring for one’s fellow man.

As James said in an earlier post, this preacher would most probably turn his venom on the Catholic Church with the same zeal with which he attacks Islam.

Heaven knows what he would say about us Unitarian Universalists.:eek:

Somehow, I don’t think this is the type of Christianity most Christians would like to promote.
 
Sam_777 said:
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Muslims will not differentiate between minority Christians (nondenominational) and denominational ones, that action would create additional barriers between Christianity & Islam.
Burning the Quran will not solve anything, instead it will create more hatred and anger towards Christians in general, that nondenominational church should discuss with Muslims why they think it’s “a religion of the devil” through documentations and dialogues not through burning, and that nondenominational church should remember that the Pope of the highest denominational church in the world has kissed the Koran as a sign of respect back in 1999.
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Sam_777 said:
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Muslims will not differentiate between minority Christians (nondenominational) and denominational ones, that action would create additional barriers between Christianity & Islam.
Burning the Quran will not solve anything, instead it will create more hatred and anger towards Christians in general, that nondenominational church should discuss with Muslims why they think it’s “a religion of the devil” through documentations and dialogues not through burning, and that nondenominational church should remember that the Pope of the highest denominational church in the world has kissed the Koran as a sign of respect back in 1999.
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Sam, you are correct. muslims and islam do not differentiate between different Christian denominations. We are all KAFIR!

If someone wants to use the koran for kindling, that’s his/her business. At least they are not chopping someone’s head off. In America, we believe in something called freedom of speech. That extends to freedom of expression.
 
OH my friend, other cultures in America are equal. That’s why muslims can have a celebration in Flint or Detroit, MI and have Christians arrested for speaking about the heresies of islam.

Please don’t lecture me on the rights of Americans. Jewish, muslim, Hindu, atheist or otherwise. muslims in America enjoy more rights than in Europe! Including your country. No attempt to ban degrading veils in the United States.
 
Sam_777 said:
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Muslims will not differentiate between minority Christians (nondenominational) and denominational ones, that action would create additional barriers between Christianity & Islam.

Burning the Quran will not solve anything, instead it will create more hatred and anger towards Christians in general, that nondenominational church should discuss with Muslims why they think it’s “a religion of the devil” through documentations and dialogues not through burning, and that nondenominational church should remember that the Pope of the highest denominational church in the world has kissed the Koran as a sign of respect back in 1999.
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And could have the possible effect of producing riots throughout the world (a la regensburg address and Mohammed cartoons) while putting Christians in Middle-Eastern countries in danger.

God bless

Josie
 
Oh, by the way, very recently ( the last week or two) a New Jersey judge ruled that a muslim man who raped his wife was well within the rights of his culture to do so. He was set free. SICK.
 
I said Europe. France, Spain, and other countries.

Europe is forgotten? Does your country not belong to the European Union. Hardly a forgotten entity.
 
And no country in the west enjoys the freedom of speech that America does. You can say anything short inciting riot. There is no law against denying the holocaust ( a horrific statement on mankind) or blasphemy, or hatred, or love, or peace, or Christianity, or Judaism, or islam, or hindu, or animist, or atheism, or, or, or, or , or. Please do not tell me that ANY country in Europe, except France or Denmark can claim those freedoms.

Certainly not Ireland, or Germany, or a soon to be new member, Turkey. Now there is an insult to western culture. Turkey? Turkey was once secular democracy. A country that the U.S. would have gone to war to help. Now it’s on the way to being a “democratic” theocracy.

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Well, let me tell you something. Either you think I’m stupid, or just ignorant. You’ve posted many times where you live. I know what your location says, but know that’s not where you live. YOU’VE STATED IT MANY TIMES.

As far as ruling on domestic law. Once again you’re wrong. While it may not have legal consequences for Italy, your union is trying to banish the crucifix from public schools. I’m sure read the news. It’s really old news by a couple of months. You may not legally be able to persecute Italy, but you could just slap some kind of monetary sanction per something in your “constitution”. I find it amazing that when the pope was critical of no mention in your constitution, it was an atheist from Poland that stood by the pope. He may have been atheist, but he realized the morality that could be lost. He realized that for many, the expression of the Christian and Jewish faiths are by their virtue a call to peace.

So, let’s go European atheists that just can’t stand to see the influence of Christianity in their lives. GO EUROPEAN UNION!!! 👍👍👍👍
 
Sam_777 said:
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Muslims will not differentiate between minority Christians (nondenominational) and denominational ones, that action would create additional barriers between Christianity & Islam.
Burning the Quran will not solve anything, instead it will create more hatred and anger towards Christians in general, that nondenominational church should discuss with Muslims why they think it’s “a religion of the devil” through documentations and dialogues not through burning, and that nondenominational church should remember that the Pope of the highest denominational church in the world has kissed the Koran as a sign of respect back in 1999.
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Through documentations and dialogues?

You have to be willing to succomb to reason at the end of the day. Thats the point were no-one wants to budge?

Lets give it the benifit of the doubt, we both grew up differently. You grew in your faith and I grew into mine. These became a learned behavior through childhood. No different than many children who grow up with barriers such as Racism, Ethnic or Social, Athiest etc. Would you agee that if you or I had been taught as youths any of these beliefs. They would more than likely follow us for our life? Or, at least take an an honest effort and desire to change?

In order to change any belief, you have to be willing to be open minded about the opposing side of the debate. Really the question then would be. If provided all the information to the opposite side of the debate, would you first not be be in denial of its truth. Thus be willing to accept the end conlusion?

Think about this now.
 
Now you’ve really got me laughing. The United States has been a melting pot of Europe for over 200 years. We got that way by standing against all the oppression in Europe.

I’m losing respect. You’ve made no points. You tell me that I cannot comment on where you live, but you can do so about me. Typical. You clearly know nothing about America. Certainly not the muslim population. American muslims are clearly intertwined in America culture, festivities, music, and so on. AND they are far more financially comfortable than in your country or any other country in Europe. They are a full part of American society. You’ve got to look hard to find homegrown nutcase imams here like in Europe. And they have the right to spew hate. It’s in the constitution.

Enough said. You seem to be clueless.
 
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