A pregnant man?

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From the article: “…they refuse to call me by a male pronoun…”

Um, because she’s (allegedly, the neighbors don’t think so) pregnant, and men can’t get pregnant, so if someone is pregnant that person is by defination a “she”. Simple biology. Get over it. You can’t have it both ways. And you can’t whine about being treated differently when you did this to yourself. This woman made herself of freak of nature, and wants to get upset because receptionists laugh at her, and oh no, horror of horrors, some doctors actually have RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS and refuse to violate them. That line there made me think this couple is getting ready to run to the ACLU, and that this pregnancy could very well be a hoax (like their neighbors believe) to make loads of money off of all the “intolerant bigots” who are refusing to treat them like just another couple. But I’m cynical like that.

In Christ,

Ellen
Doctors all swear the Hippocratic oath. There was a case where they refused to treat an individual like this who had ovarian cancer. Absolutely refused, he died as a result. It’s chronicled in a documentary called ‘Southern Comfort’.

It’s in our religious conventions to let people die too I guess?
 
Doctors all swear the Hippocratic oath. There was a case where they refused to treat an individual like this who had ovarian cancer. Absolutely refused, he died as a result. It’s chronicled in a documentary called ‘Southern Comfort’.

It’s in our religious conventions to let people die too I guess?
Failing to treat cancer, whomever the victim, is wrong and violates the oath. That’s not what this case is about. I’m sure this couple can find some very “progressive” doctor or midwife (they seem to way outnumber the conservative religious ones) to deliver their baby (if there is one). Should all docs be forced to perform abortions and sterilizations and sex change operations and breast enhancements (done for vanity purposes only, not due to masectomies) against their religious beliefs and/or consciences? We’re not talking an emergency life or death situation, here.

In Christ,

Ellen
 
Failing to treat cancer, whomever the victim, is wrong and violates the oath. That’s not what this case is about. I’m sure this couple can find some very “progressive” doctor or midwife (they seem to way outnumber the conservative religious ones) to deliver their baby (if there is one). Should all docs be forced to perform abortions and sterilizations and sex change operations and breast enhancements (done for vanity purposes only, not due to masectomies) against their religious beliefs and/or consciences? We’re not talking an emergency life or death situation, here.

In Christ,

Ellen
The last pregnancy was an ectopic one, which can be a life or death situation.
 
The last pregnancy was an ectopic one, which can be a life or death situation.
And that was obviously treated, and if the photos are true, this pregnancy is obviously not ectopic, given the size of her belly, so it’s not the same situation at all. They can find a progressive doctor or midwife, Oregon’s a very liberal progressive state, there must be dozens, if not hundreds of them.

In Christ,

Ellen
 
And that was obviously treated, and if the photos are true, this pregnancy is obviously not ectopic, given the size of her belly, so it’s not the same situation at all. They can find a progressive doctor or midwife, Oregon’s a very liberal progressive state, there must be dozens, if not hundreds of them.

In Christ,

Ellen
Why wouldn’t they be true? This is hardly the first female to male transsexual to have a baby. I’m still trying to figure out why this particular one got into such a big story. It’s happened many times before, I know several of them that have had babies, usually due to similarly situations as this one with their partner being sterile etc.
 
Why wouldn’t they be true? This is hardly the first female to male transsexual to have a baby. I’m still trying to figure out why this particular one got into such a big story.
I am not sure about the previous cases, but in this case it seems Thomas Beatie broke the story by writing a first person account which ran in the national gay publication The Advocate.
advocate.com/issue_story_ektid52664.asp

Perhaps in the previous cases, the couples decided to be more low key.
 
I am not sure about the previous cases, but in this case it seems Thomas Beatie broke the story by writing a first person account which ran in the national gay publication The Advocate.
advocate.com/issue_story_ektid52664.asp

Perhaps in the previous cases, the couples decided to be more low key.
Not necessarily by choice. Transsexuals for awhile, though it is changing, have been outcasts from the gay movement. This might have just been the first time the editorial staff bothered to accept an editorial on the matter.
 
And I thought it was a biological man who is pregnant !

Feakin’ news is misleading.

Should’ve been confirmed in the fact that no man can ever be pregnant !
 
Thomas Beatie and his wife will appear on Oprah this Thursday.
Oprah's website:
A happily married couple, living in a normal neighborhood in America, is expecting their first child. But there’s a big twist … the husband is the one who’s pregnant! How is this possible? Thomas and his wife are here in their first television interview. The couple reveals the details of their pasts, their relationship and their incredible pregnancy. Then, watch as our cameras capture the ultrasound and get an inside look at the couple’s plans for the nursery.
I can’t post a direct link since the information is in a pop-up, but if you go to Oprah.com and find the section which says “Tune In This Week”, click on the link titled “See what’s coming up!”

Apparently, his appearance on Oprah is in conjunction with People Magazine, so he may well appear in an upcoming issue.
 
I just want to ask something. This couple appeared on Oprah, and (unfortunately) I watched. I was seriously thinking that science did the whole “Junior” think (old governor Arnold movie). I was like “God have mercy on us”.

I’m still thinking “God have mercy on us”. My problem is they are completely portraying her as a man. Apparently her “wife” and Tracey are legally married because she is now a “man”. Quesion: how? I don’t understand that.

If she so desperately wanted to be a man, why would she purposely keep her ovaries and reproductive parts? I’m so very overwhelmed.

I’m not homephobic and have homesexual friends. I just don’t understand this story at all.

I pray God has mercy on us all.
 
I love how the ad in the middle of the oprah thing is for an antidepressant…
 
I watched it too, kinda got sucked in 😦 .

I don’t understand why everyone is call this a prego man. “He” kept all the needed parts to have a child. :rolleyes:
 
I watched it too, kinda got sucked in 😦 .

I don’t understand why everyone is call this a prego man. “He” kept all the needed parts to have a child. :rolleyes:
There are all sorts of medical problems and risks associated with that surgery and the aftermath of complete ovary/uterus removal. Namely, difficulty catching certain kinds of cancers.
 
I guess this is terrible of me, but this subject is so nauseating I thought maybe a joke would be in order.

Question: Why are there so many more male to female sex change operations than there are female to male operations?

Answer: Because so few females survive the part of female to male surgery where the doctors take half their brains out.
 
I guess this is terrible of me, but this subject is so nauseating I thought maybe a joke would be in order.

Question: Why are there so many more male to female sex change operations than there are female to male operations?

Answer: Because so few females survive the part of female to male surgery where the doctors take half their brains out.
😉 good one lol
 
I guess this is terrible of me, but this subject is so nauseating I thought maybe a joke would be in order.

Question: Why are there so many more male to female sex change operations than there are female to male operations?

Answer: Because so few females survive the part of female to male surgery where the doctors take half their brains out.
That is pretty bad 😉

However, the real reason is because the surgeries…aren’t very good. It’s been a long standing medical fact that ‘It is easier to poke a hole, than grow a pole’. This is why until recently if you had even vaguely ambiguous genitals they would make you female, because that was ‘easier’ to do. The surgeries they do on infants are very much related to how they are done in adults.
 
I just want to ask something. This couple appeared on Oprah, and (unfortunately) I watched. I was seriously thinking that science did the whole “Junior” think (old governor Arnold movie). I was like “God have mercy on us”.

I’m still thinking “God have mercy on us”. My problem is they are completely portraying her as a man. Apparently her “wife” and Tracey are legally married because she is now a “man”. Quesion: how? I don’t understand that.

If she so desperately wanted to be a man, why would she purposely keep her ovaries and reproductive parts? I’m so very overwhelmed.

I’m not homephobic and have homesexual friends. I just don’t understand this story at all.

I pray God has mercy on us all.
Megadittos here.
 
I watched it too, kinda got sucked in 😦 .

I don’t understand why everyone is call this a prego man. “He” kept all the needed parts to have a child. :rolleyes:
The news didn’t tell the whole truth. It got people thinking that it’s really a *man *who is preg.

As for me, I’d never see her as a man. She was born a woman and will always be one 'til her last breath. She can annilhilate her body all she wants and it wouldn’t change that fact.

The world can go on lying to themselves.
 
The news didn’t tell the whole truth. It got people thinking that it’s really a *man *who is preg.

As for me, I’d never see her as a man. She was born a woman and will always be one 'til her last breath. She can annilhilate her body all she wants and it wouldn’t change that fact.

The world can go on lying to themselves.
Reminds me on an ancedote about Abraham Lincoln when he was practicing lw. he asked a witness"If a tail were a leg how many legs would a horse have? The witness replied"5". Lincoln admonished him saying “The answer is 4 -calling a tail a leg doesnt make it a leg”
 
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