Not as rare as you might think. I am one, and I am sure I am not the only one that uses these boards. Different chromosomes from XX and XY are as common as 1/500 people, and there are many more than that here alone.
Can you give a citation on that? 1/500 seems like an amazingly large number of people - 600,000 people in the US alone? 12,000,000 people worldwide? That seems pretty unbelievable.Not as rare as you might think. I am one, and I am sure I am not the only one that uses these boards. Different chromosomes from XX and XY are as common as 1/500 people, and there are many more than that here alone.
That might not seem that common, but take into account that Beattie, if we consider him a transsexual, is even rarer. (1 in 10,000 or so) We live in the shadows, I just happen to be a very loud one
isna.org/faq/frequency
Beattie is not a HIM, but a HER…Not as rare as you might think. I am one, and I am sure I am not the only one that uses these boards. Different chromosomes from XX and XY are as common as 1/500 people, and there are many more than that here alone.
That might not seem that common, but take into account that Beattie, if we consider him a transsexual, is even rarer. (1 in 10,000 or so) We live in the shadows, I just happen to be a very loud one
I call people by what the names and pronouns that they wish to be called, it’s simply just rude to do otherwise and will cause needless conflict. Transsexuals have it bad enough as is to not have simple things get in the way.
Well, it is still a much higher number than I would have thought, but your citation for neither XX or XY says 1:1666, not 1:500. Thanks for the info though…I will read more on the link you provided, when I have a chance.
The 1/500 might be from somewhere else, I admit it does sound too high
Her dad still calls her by her original name.
My parents still call me by my male name too, so what’s your point?
That is interesting. Any correlation between males with klinefelter’s and homosexuality? If a guy is “more in touch with his feminine side,” is he possibly XXY and actually has a feminine side? There has to be some studies on that.The 1/500 might be from somewhere else, I admit it does sound too high
Edit: Oh, I know what 1/500 is now. It is the incidence of klinefelter’s in males (all klinefelter’s cases are usually raised male). So the quote on the website is for 1/1000, when it is really 1/500 male births, because of the 50/50 between male and female. Genetic females don’t get klinefelter’s, they have turner’s instead or triplo-x.
Doctors will tell the parents of an XXY child that he will not be gay, however there aren’t any scientific surveys of XXY’s that I know. I’ve seen some questionnaires in online in support groups around are something around 40% of them identifying as not-straight (I think the breakdown was 20% bisexual 10% gay 10% transsexual). They are still rather likely to be attracted to women, bisexuality is VERY common. I’m not sure why it’s not been studied closely, there’s quite a large sample given how common it is. Trying to find that survey again…again though, it wasn’t scientific.
That’s why I asked about guys “more in touch with their feminine side.” They aren’t necessarily “gay.” I’ve known some fairly “effiminate” guys who are heterosexual, happily married, dads. That’s why I don’t put any stock into the “gay-dar” silliness some people talk about.
No one is talking about them, but I think you know that.Mike and Sailor Kenshin, - what about those born with ambiguous genitalia and were declared as male at birth but later found to have inner female organs then they had surgery to be female? Or how about the woman who gave birth and later she was found to have XY chromosomes which is male? And how about those born with both XY and XX - chimera?
No guys, sex is not an absolute.
Lynn-D
obviously she is still a female - that is my point
I think you totally missed mine…
I wan’t talking about cancer or anything else but that this pregnant woman is still only a woman, nothing more unusual than that.
If a person is truly an intersex or transsexual I would suppose that if they are comfortable enough to intentionally get pregnant and give birth then I must be suspicious of that person ever being anything but what Beattie actually referred to HERSELF as being…a lesbian transgender. One cannot tell me they have the mental brain of one sex in conflict with their genitalia then mentally and physically proclaim to the world that they are going to live through what is a totally female act all the while yell from under the stage-lights that they are really male. Not in my book. That is delusion and fits right in with GID, a mental dysphoria.
My mother died in February from Ovarian cancer. She had had a complete hysterectomy two decades ago.If a person is truly an intersex or transsexual I would suppose that if they are comfortable enough to intentionally get pregnant and give birth then I must be suspicious of that person ever being anything but what Beattie actually referred to HERSELF as being…a lesbian transgender. One cannot tell me they have the mental brain of one sex in conflict with their genitalia then mentally and physically proclaim to the world that they are going to live through what is a totally female act all the while yell from under the stage-lights that they are really male. Not in my book. That is delusion and fits right in with GID, a mental dysphoria.
I had an ovary removed when an infant and now uterine tissue will need to be removed because of bleeding problems but the fact is that every doctor I have seen lessens the chance of my getting cancer because of the removal, - not increasing the odds. No, I think actually the chances of this fetus being negatively affected because of the MOTHER taking male hormones is greater than any cancer a she might get as a result of removal of any tissue or organ.
I learned sometime ago while taking college upgrades as a social worker that the numbers of actual transsexuals was in the 1/25000 range. The mix-up it seems is the error of reporting transgender elements in the analysis. If you claim 1/1500 that might well include many who identify as gender variant who often fantasize about being the opposite sex but actually are crossdressers, fetishists and/or simply dysphoric. That complicates the matter of dealing and treating those who are really transsexuals and obviously skews the numbers.
I think what needs to be addressed is that many churches seem to include intersex and transsexuals in with all of the elements under the GLBT acronym as if they too are either driven by sexual orientation (gay/lesbian/bisexual, GLB) or crossdressing and other elements (T) which GLBT denotes. Fact is that those suffering from the IS or TS condition are wrongly thought to be having corrective surgery for sexual reasons. That is simply not true. The surgery usually is so that the person might finally feel as one with him or herself…to feel whole.
Lynn-D
I never said that it would stop the possibility. I said, “but the fact is that every doctor I have seen lessens the chance of my getting cancer because of the removal, - not increasing the odds.”