A question concerning Souls in Purgatory

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Last thursday I had my first dose of Spiritual Direction, from a Nun at the local retreat center. We went over a lot of territory, and that included my biological father. He died in 1962, when i was age 19. I did not shed a single tear for him then, and I have not been able to shed a single tear for him yet.

But I have been given my Spiritual Direction marching orders. It may take a long time, but I must forgive what he did to me. Not forget it, not condone it. Just forgive it. One of the things she wanted me to do, and which I am now doing, is to dedicate one decade of my daily rosary to healing the wounds between us.

But she also mentioned praying for my father. OK. Father was born and raised Ukranian Orthodox, and at the time of his death was an active Lutheran. As was I, confirmed in the Lutheran. Did he make it to Purgatory or Heaven?

So, asuming I can put the money together for a set of Gregorian masses for my father, should I do so. Would the money and prayers be of no use if he went to that other place? Or would it somehow someway still help the souls in Purgatory
 
So, asuming I can put the money together for a set of Gregorian masses for my father, should I do so. Would the money and prayers be of no use if he went to that other place? Or would it somehow someway still help the souls in Purgatory
One thing is certain, no Mass is wasted. Ever. My opinion, which bears no certainty whatsoever: if you are concerned about getting your “money’s worth” from a Mass stipend, do something else. Give alms in your father’s name perhaps?

JSA
 
Any Masses you have said in the future will have been counted by God when your father died and faced the individual judgment.

Time does not exist for God, so those Masses may have made the vital difference. Not having them said could also make a vital difference.

No prayer is ever wasted, God knows what He is doing. They will also benefit you in turn.
 
Forgiveness can be hard but it brings peace.

Those I have had to forgive are still alive. I have forgiven them. We do not socialize with them. Praying for them daily is a must. But in order to be at peace with this we must stay away from the situation.
 
Any Masses you have said in the future will have been counted by God when your father died and faced the individual judgment.

Time does not exist for God, so those Masses may have made the vital difference. Not having them said could also make a vital difference.

No prayer is ever wasted, God knows what He is doing. They will also benefit you in turn.
There’s a great story about St Padre Pio announcing prayers for a holy death for his father … 20-odd years after the gentleman in question had died. When this was pointed out to him, the good Padre replied ‘time means nothing to God - surely he can apply my prayers to my father’s lifetime.’
 
One thing is certain, no Mass is wasted. Ever. My opinion, which bears no certainty whatsoever: if you are concerned about getting your “money’s worth” from a Mass stipend, do something else. Give alms in your father’s name perhaps?

JSA
You seem to have misunderstood what I was trying to say and ask, and that would be my fault.😦

It concerned the effectiveness of Gregorian Masses for a non-Catholic. O well, others have answered the question to my satisfaction, and that is what is really important. I get paid next friday, and will go ahead:thumbsup:

As for alms, I am an active member of Alcoholics Anonymous, and I do my part for Tradition 7. :twocents:
 
Any Masses you have said in the future will have been counted by God when your father died and faced the individual judgment.

Time does not exist for God, so those Masses may have made the vital difference. Not having them said could also make a vital difference.

No prayer is ever wasted, God knows what He is doing. They will also benefit you in turn.
Thank you thank thank you. I get paid next Friday, and will go ahead from there:thumbsup:
 
Is one set of Gregorian Masses (30 days) enough to free any soul from Purgatory?:confused:

Yes, this is about my deceased biological father.
 
I don’t believe there’s a specific rule about this.
We know that a Mass is of very great value in helping the souls in Purgatory.
We don’t know the specific value of a Mass for any particular soul.
 
Is one set of Gregorian Masses (30 days) enough to free any soul from Purgatory?:confused:

Yes, this is about my deceased biological father.
Only God can release souls from Purgatory and we have no idea when he does this. We can and should pray daily for the souls in Purgatory but we do not determine by our prayers the timing of when a soul is taken to Heaven. The timing is left to God alone.
 
I am so very sorry for the loss of your father.

The Holy Mass is the most powerful prayer, period.

One Mass alone, just one singular Mass for the deceased is enough and more than enough.

Masses offered for the same soul is a sign of people’s love and concern for them and also a sign of the grief of their loss. Sometimes an extensive offering of Masses for a soul can be due to a great deal of worry whether the soul is with God or not and sometimes it is because the grieving seek consolation for the loss of their loved one. In those circumstances this can be very unhealthy for those left grieving, at some point we must trust in God’s mercy. God does not keep souls in purgatory forever, those in purgatory are destined to be with God for all eternity and whilst we should offer prayer for those who have died, we must not see God as a strict judge, God will not keep a soul in purgatory a second longer than is beneficial for the soul.

Sometimes a person can be so concerned with their deceased relative and their salvation that they forget to live themselves and rather than live themselves they forget life and others in their life.

People offer endless Masses for their deceased loved ones and more often than not have not offered a single mass for them whilst they were alive this side of life. I would invite everyone to offer Masses for each other, loved ones, friends, family, parishes, authorities and those who we feel are against us.

It is just and a work of mercy to bury the dead and offer prayers for them. But it is greater to offer prayers and Masses for those who are alive this side of life. I say that because it is a great deal harder to offer Mass for someone this side of life than it is to offer it for them after their death.

By all of this I don’t mean to sound that we should not pray for those who have died, of course we should remember and pray for those who have died. However a soul that commends a loved one once to God and trusts in His Mercy is greater than a soul that commends a loved one many times to God and is not sure of their trust that God will be merciful. We do not re-confess sins (that have not been committed again) once we have been absolved of them, we trust in God’s Mercy and Forgiveness, so too we must trust in God’s Mercy when we commend our deceased loved ones to Him.

One thing that I hardly ever see is a Mass said for those who are left behind after someone dies. This would also be a greater work of mercy, to pray for the family, friends and loved ones of the person who has died.

I posted up a verse in another thread but I will also post it here and anyone who is struggling to trust in God’s Mercy may like to slowly read it and meditate upon it and I hope and pray they find peace in it, because more often than not their deceased loved one is at peace, but those left behind are not:

‘Do not let your hearts be troubled
you have faith in God, have faith also in Me.
In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places.
If there were not would I have told you
that I am going to prepare a place for you?
And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come back again and take you to Myself,
so that where I am you also may be.
Where I am going, you know the way.’


If your father did not receive a Catholic Requiem Mass, then offer one Mass for him. If your father did receive a full Catholic Mass at his funeral, then offer one Mass for him. Keep him in your heart and speak with him often and ask him to pray for you. When my father died after a period of time I asked my father to pray for me, I spoke with him about many things and my heart was greatly consoled to know in many small ways, over time, my prayers were answered, this was more beautiful to me to know I still converse with my father, who if he was not with God, the prayers I asked him to pray for me would not have been answered. The Mass I offered for my father was one of thanksgiving to our Father for the life of my late father. 🙂

The Peace of Christ to your heart and spirit and I will offer my next Eucharist for you.

In my prayers
 
I am so very sorry for the loss of your father.

The Holy Mass is the most powerful prayer, period.
The Peace of Christ to your heart and spirit and I will offer my next Eucharist for you.

In my prayers
Thank you. The feedback I have received from all of you has been a help. I will go ahead with the Gregorian Masses, both for my father’s sake and mine.

Oh, and don;t worry about my not forgetting the living. I have three cats who do a very good job of that:rolleyes:
 
If you are interested in gaining indulgences for yourself or a soul in pergatory, I would suggest going to this site:
ourladyswarriors.org/

Good luck, and I will pray for you and your father.
 
Yes, this is about my deceased biological father.
Do well in RCIA, let nothing prevent you from going to the Rites of Initiation, and offer up the graces of your First Holy Communion for the repose of your father’s soul. I think there is a Plenary Indulgence attached to First Holy Communion (either to receive it yourself, or to attend someone else’s) and you don’t have to be completely detached from personal sin to offer it for a soul in Purgatory (I just recently learned) - so, yeah - do that.

And meanwhile, know that your father did not go anywhere without God’s full consent and knowledge - he cannot have gone anywhere that is not the best possible place for him to be.
 
Do well in RCIA, let nothing prevent you from going to the Rites of Initiation, and offer up the graces of your First Holy Communion for the repose of your father’s soul. I think there is a Plenary Indulgence attached to First Holy Communion (either to receive it yourself, or to attend someone else’s) and you don’t have to be completely detached from personal sin to offer it for a soul in Purgatory (I just recently learned) - so, yeah - do that.

And meanwhile, know that your father did not go anywhere without God’s full consent and knowledge - he cannot have gone anywhere that is not the best possible place for him to be.
Thank you… You have no idea how thrilled I am that I can still help the souls in purgatory with indulgences, Plenery or otherwise.
 
Thank you. The feedback I have received from all of you has been a help. I will go ahead with the Gregorian Masses, both for my father’s sake and mine.

Oh, and don;t worry about my not forgetting the living. I have three cats who do a very good job of that:rolleyes:
Then after you have done this I pray and hope you find your peace in Jesus.🙂
 
One Mass alone, just one singular Mass for the deceased is enough and more than enough
I don’t know about that. While one Mass CAN free a soul from purgatory, there is no assurance that it WILL free that soul from purgatory. As was said earlier by others, that is entirely up to God.

We should continue to pray for our dead regularily with rosaries and Mass offerings confident that if that person is already free from Purgatory, God will apply those prayers and Masses to where ever in His infinite wisdom they will do the most good and are most needed – so nothing is ever “wasted” in that regard.
 
One Mass alone, just one singular Mass for the deceased is enough and more than enough
I don’t know about that. While one Mass CAN free a soul from purgatory, there is no assurance that it WILL free that soul from purgatory. As was said earlier by others, that is entirely up to God.

We should continue to pray for our dead regularily with rosaries and Mass offerings confident that if that person is already free from Purgatory, God will apply those prayers and Masses to where ever in His infinite wisdom they will do the most good and are most needed – so nothing is ever “wasted” in that regard.
 
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