A Religion Free Society Coming Soon?

[Jimmy_B]

As Jimmy would say, the silence is deafening…

Hmmmmm…let me think about this for a second…should I take the bait? Especially, since I haven’t posted anything on this thread…yet.

Decisions….Decisions…. :yukonjoe:

 

[RubyT]

Florida Gulf Coast University has banned all Public displays of Christmas Decorations. In the dorm room is okay, just not out in public. Not in the library, not on the campus grounds, not on the street post, nowhere nada, zip, zilch.
Whaaaas up wit dat. :frighten:

 

[a_cermak]

Florida Gulf Coast University has banned all Public displays of Christmas Decorations. In the dorm room is okay, just not out in public. Not in the library, not on the campus grounds, not on the street post, nowhere nada, zip, zilch.
Whaaaas up wit dat. :frighten:

Possibly a fear of the Olympia scenario. I can just see it, perhaps the different groups could compete.

Next year, I think the Washington Leg should just set up the displays in a different building so there’s enough room for all the displays and charge admission to cover the cost of the whole thing and any extra moneys can be used for worthy causes. Everyone wins–free speech, freedom of religion, diversity, tolerance, and extreme sectarianism. I’ve always said the proper antidote to free speech is more free speech. So let the Westboro Baptists have their obnoxious sign. And let the Pastafarians have their noodly appendages. And let the menorah shine and the nativity glow. And let the atheists have their say and the religious have theirs.

 

[Lujack]

There are no other “Holy” days…what don’t you understand? Hanukkah, everyone still works don’t they, nothing Federal about that, Crescent moon? Won’t even go there…CHRISTMAS IS THE ONLY FEDERAL HOLIDAY IN SIGHT. Get it? Birth of Christ. People had better accept this because they are in total denial.

Well, if the only way something becomes a holy day is if the federal government recognizes it, then the Feast of the Immaculate Conception isn’t a holy day, and I don’t have to go to church on that day.

 

[RubyT]

My goodness what is all this dissension.

The OP is just trying to say it is getting harder and harder for Christians to celebrate Christmas with decorations and the use of the words Merry Christmas, Now thats not too difficult to understand.

It seems to me that decorations are a form of freedom of speech. So is saying the words Merry Christmas.
When we erode one groups right to celebrate with decorations and speech; it opens the door to deny this inalienable right to other groups. It seems to me diversity was not meant to remove freedom but rather to enable it for all. Individual groups such as Christians at Christmas time suffer a loss of freedom. Freedom to put up decorations in public places, freedom to say Merry Christmas in the spirit is is meant.

Everyone is so worried about offending someone else that nobody wins because all freedom of speech becomes offensive to one party or another. Isn’t the true meaning of diversity to live and let live, to have a community of compassion for all races and religions? So why I ask is this compassion not afforded to Christians at Christmas time?

Christians have a right to freedom too, this is America, not China.

 

[notself]

My goodness what is all this dissension.

The OP is just trying to say it is getting harder and harder for Christians to celebrate Christmas with decorations and the use of the words Merry Christmas, Now thats not too difficult to understand.

It seems to me that decorations are a form of freedom of speech. So is saying the words Merry Christmas.
When we erode one groups right to celebrate with decorations and speech; it opens the door to deny this inalienable right to other groups. It seems to me diversity was not meant to remove freedom but rather to enable it for all. Individual groups such as Christians at Christmas time suffer a loss of freedom. Freedom to put up decorations in public places, freedom to say Merry Christmas in the spirit is is meant.

Everyone is so worried about offending someone else that nobody wins because all freedom of speech becomes offensive to one party or another. Isn’t the true meaning of diversity to live and let live, to have a community of compassion for all races and religions? So why I ask is this compassion not afforded to Christians at Christmas time?

Christians have a right to freedom too, this is America, not China.

The Free Speech is protected by the Constitution is speech or actions representing speech by private citizens. The sticking point is when government supports one kind of speech or religion over another. There is a very interesting case on this subject that is going to be ruled on by the SCOTUS next year. Here is a link from the Christian Science Monitor about the issues.

csmonitor.com/2008/1112/p03s05-usju.html

What I don’t understand is why people are so eager to express their religious beliefs on government property? Why not just be satisfied with putting religious symbols on private property? It seems like a lot of fuss and bother over nothing. The money spent on legal fees could be used to help the poor.

 

[Lujack]

My goodness what is all this dissension.

The OP is just trying to say it is getting harder and harder for Christians to celebrate Christmas with decorations and the use of the words Merry Christmas, Now thats not too difficult to understand.

It seems to me that decorations are a form of freedom of speech. So is saying the words Merry Christmas.
When we erode one groups right to celebrate with decorations and speech; it opens the door to deny this inalienable right to other groups. It seems to me diversity was not meant to remove freedom but rather to enable it for all. Individual groups such as Christians at Christmas time suffer a loss of freedom. Freedom to put up decorations in public places, freedom to say Merry Christmas in the spirit is is meant.

Everyone is so worried about offending someone else that nobody wins because all freedom of speech becomes offensive to one party or another. Isn’t the true meaning of diversity to live and let live, to have a community of compassion for all races and religions? So why I ask is this compassion not afforded to Christians at Christmas time?

Christians have a right to freedom too, this is America, not China.

My problem with the OP is that he seems to take offense at any acknowledgment of Hannukah or Kwaanzah or even “Happy Holidays”. If you read the OP, he even rebukes a store employee for daring to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

 

[Kat876]

** How come in a democratic and Christian United States, Nativity scenes and public prayers are banned?
How come seventh grader Amber Mangum was forbidden to read a bible in the school cafeteria during her lunch period at the Dwight D. Eisenhower middle school in Prince George’s County, MD?
How come British Airways worker Nadia Eweida was fired for wearing a cross?
What led people into such “Christianophobia” and “religionphobia”?
I was in the mall the other day and the employees said “Happy Holidays”. I responded “You mean Merry Christmas, right”? One employee said “We are told to be politically correct”. I simply said, “Well, you can learn to be politically incorrect too.”.

I get very upset when these things happen… **

First: I have seen many public nativity scenes. Next: I know a guy that carries his bible all around school.
Although, I do think sometimes people overcompensate with trying to be politically correct.
But as for the Happy Holidays thing: People must realize there are other religions too. How would you feel if everybody just started calling out “Happy Hanukah” to you? People celebrate many things this season, and you must realize that.

 

[RubyT]

originally posted by Lujack

My problem with the OP is that he seems to take offense at any acknowledgment of Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or even “Happy Holidays”. If you read the OP, he even rebukes a store employee for daring to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

Well Lujack you do have a point about the over zealousness of the OP post. I try to give some amount of leniency when reading post as it is so easy to let perception of the post skew what the person is really trying to convey. I also keep in mind that there are many people on this forum that lack subtlety.

 

[O.S.Luke]

I see you are still on this Maryland thing. Truth is it was named after the Virgin Mary. Like it or not. Anyone can tell you anything. No one will admit this but in a book I have which I need to find it and I will get back to ya…after I show you ,do you promise to move on and start a problem somewhere else?

My liking or disliking anything has very little bearing on the truth.

If you believe what someone says in a book over historical evidence, then I suspect you and I will have very little to discuss. As you correctly pointed out, anyone can tell you anything. If Jack Chick says something about the Catholic Church in print, does that make it factual? According to your logic, it does.

Basically, you’re telling a state that they’re wrong about their own history and founding and who they were named after. I guess it’s all a state-sponsored conspiracy against the Catholic Church.

You could offer it as an opinion. Just a suggestion.

O+

 

[Jimmy_B]

My liking or disliking anything has very little bearing on the truth…

Well…that explains a lot.