A simple question about Islam

[Hypatia]

A father’s love for his child has no limit. No matter how bad a child is, a father still loves him. Similarly for God. God does not hate and this attribute of God is not found in Islam for there is a situation where Allah of Islam hates.

I think it is great (and even right) that you have learned to read the Christian texts in this way, but, as I pointed out earlier in thread, at the surface of level of the Bible at the very least God hates (“Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated”). Moreover God hates in an absolute way, i.e., Esau has even done anything yet, this is God’s attitude toward Esau from birth.

Christians manage to read past that still come to conclusions such as yours, but, like all texts, the text demands interpretation from its readers; presumeably God is love despite hating (and Paul turns that distinction between love and hate into a general rule of how to interpret God’s attitude towards humanity very much along sheep and goats lines that one finds in the mouth of Jesus elsewhere in the New Testament.

Likewise in Islam, the fundamental reality that one must say about God is that God is Love. Creatures only have their existence in a movement of the divine love and without the unconditional outflowing of Love nothing would be. The call of the divine love is, then, the summons within which everything exists insofar as it has being. We always find ourselves seduced by the Beloved in the grip of an intimacy that is beyond escape even if we wish to deny it and find the foundation of our being, somehow, within ourselves.

 

[Reuben_J]

I think it is great (and even right) that you have learned to read the Christian texts in this way, but, as I pointed out earlier in thread, at the surface of level of the Bible at the very least God hates (“Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated”). Moreover God hates in an absolute way, i.e., Esau has even done anything yet, this is God’s attitude toward Esau from birth.

Christians manage to read past that still come to conclusions such as yours, but, like all texts, the text demands interpretation from its readers; presumeably God is love despite hating (and Paul turns that distinction between love and hate into a general rule of how to interpret God’s attitude towards humanity very much along sheep and goats lines that one finds in the mouth of Jesus elsewhere in the New Testament.

Likewise in Islam, the fundamental reality that one must say about God is that God is Love. Creatures only have their existence in a movement of the divine love and without the unconditional outflowing of Love nothing would be. The call of the divine love is, then, the summons within which everything exists insofar as it has being. We always find ourselves seduced by the Beloved in the grip of an intimacy that is beyond escape even if we wish to deny it and find the foundation of our being, somehow, within ourselves.

We have come to a predictable response. Muslims would refer to the Old Testaments and Christians would say Jesus had made the difference, hence there is no hate. Because the OT is past and gone and a new covenant which is written in the hearts had come about because of what Jesus had done and everything is made new.

Probably this have been said before but no, Christianity does not believe God send people to hell but rather it is the consequence of sin that humans have the choice to make. Like the stove is hot and if one touches it, one will get burn and not that the stove would disappear to avoid one being burnt.

I would not want to contradict you so I will let it be. I wonder if you have any comment on the love of God as demonstrated by Jesus (ref to my last post on this subject). It would be informative for us if you can clarify whether Islamic Allah’s hate (those things and situations He says in the Quran) still applies today.

 

[Hypatia]

We have come to a predictable response. Muslims would refer to the Old Testaments and Christians would say Jesus had made the difference, hence there is no hate. Because the OT is past and gone and a new covenant which is written in the hearts had come about because of what Jesus had done and everything is made new.

Probably this have been said before but no, Christianity does not believe God send people to hell but rather it is the consequence of sin that humans have the choice to make. Like the stove is hot and if one touches it, one will get burn and not that the stove would disappear to avoid one being burnt.

I would not want to contradict you so I will let it be. I wonder if you have any comment on the love of God as demonstrated by Jesus (ref to my last post on this subject). It would be informative for us if you can clarify whether Islamic Allah’s hate (those things and situations He says in the Quran) still applies today.

“Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated” is New Testament (Paul, Romans). I assume Paul is still Christian? God certainly strikes people dead in the New Testament as well. In any case, I also assume the God of the New Testament and the God of the Old Testament are the same God. It is not as if God is in time and changes. And as long as one affirms that anyone goes to hell, one certainly has to affirm that it does not happen contrary to God’s will (else one isn’t really talking about God anymore).

I only brought up the Paul passage to note that Christians are engaged in the same type of interpretation of their own tradition that Muslims are with theirs; Christians are wrestling with the same issues in their texts and coming to the same kinds of conclusions about how things should be understood as a whole (with the same kinds of variations and disagreements found throughout Christianity as one can find throughout Islam; if anything Islam is more diverse as there is no real teaching authority). Surface readings of the text are not enough; one has to find the inner meanings of the texts and teachings. A simple appeal to the surface is neither definitive or final. It is at best a beginning.

When “hate” is specifically mentioned in the Qur’an is primarily to do with the hate that persons hold for revelation. On the relatively few occasions where God hates something it is usually some sinful act: lying; marrying your mother are the two examples that come quickly to mind. I would say those are still largely out of bounds.

Finally, the love of God we see in Jesus (pbuh) is the love of God found in all the prophets: that God sends someone who outwardly teaches and lives, in an instructive and normative way, the universal revelation of God. Apart from the saints and prophets we would spend the greater part of our lives wandering in the dark, would we not?

 

[Reuben_J]

“Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated” is New Testament (Paul, Romans). I assume Paul is still Christian? God certainly strikes people dead in the New Testament as well. In any case, I also assume the God of the New Testament and the God of the Old Testament are the same God. It is not as if God is in time and changes. And as long as one affirms that anyone goes to hell, one certainly has to affirm that it does not happen contrary to God’s will (else one isn’t really talking about God anymore).

I only brought up the Paul passage to note that Christians are engaged in the same type of interpretation of their own tradition that Muslims are with theirs; Christians are wrestling with the same issues in their texts and coming to the same kinds of conclusions about how things should be understood as a whole (with the same kinds of variations and disagreements found throughout Christianity as one can find throughout Islam; if anything Islam is more diverse as there is no real teaching authority). Surface readings of the text are not enough; one has to find the inner meanings of the texts and teachings. A simple appeal to the surface is neither definitive or final. It is at best a beginning.

Thanks for your thought. I would disagree for the reason I stated but you have nevertheless spoken up your part nicely.

I have put up the analogy of the hot stove to show that God has no hate. God is love and just, the reason why we have Jesus to demonstrate that love and also his justice. His love is such that he pays for our sin so that his justice is still the truth.

When “hate” is specifically mentioned in the Qur’an is primarily to do with the hate that persons hold for revelation. On the relatively few occasions where God hates something it is usually some sinful act: lying; marrying your mother are the two examples that come quickly to mind. I would say those are still largely out of bounds.

What about where He (Allah of Islam) purposely put people in hell? I am sorry to ask that but there seems to be no choice for certain people if they are destined to be punished in hell.

Finally, the love of God we see in Jesus (pbuh) is the love of God found in all the prophets: that God sends someone who outwardly teaches and lives, in an instructive and normative way, the universal revelation of God. Apart from the saints and prophets we would spend the greater part of our lives wandering in the dark, would we not?

Except for Jesus, in Christianity there were no other prophets whose mission was to die for the sake of the people. There were prophets who were killed but their expressed mission was not. That makes Jesus’ love unique and that’s how God loves us.

 

[AdamP88]

I’m a student of Islam. I can help

5 Similarities:

• The use of a central body of doctrine to interpret Scripture. Whilst Catholicism has the Catechism and Magisterium to help doctrinal understanding, the Islamic faith has the hadith, which include explanations of Qur’an passages, instructions on Islamic law and other issues, all given by the Prophet Muhammad (saw). OK, it differs slightly in its workings, but both the Magisterum and the hadith have a direct link to their original source (the Catholic Church has apostolic succession, Islam has isnads or chains of transmission).
• Emphasis on works of charity and good deeds. Catholicism has long had a history of charity and works as an example of Christian message, including aiding the sick, helping those with leprosy, giving shelter to travellers, educating children in some of the poorest countries in the world, disaster relief etc. Islam also places emphasis on charity, and in fact zakah (almsgiving) is a compulsory practice of Islam. Islamic charities all around the world also give disaster relief, provide education to the poor, helping the sick etc.
• Emphasis on gender roles. The Church has long been known for its stance on women priests/deacons and the like, and is emphatic on the separate roles of women and men as per the creation of Adam and Eve as two separate beings. Catholicism is also emphatic that man and women have different attributes roles, both spiritually and physically. Islam has something along the same lines, with women barred from being imams (leaders in mosques) but equally having their role as good Muslimahs and as equal members of Islam put forward.
• Mary! Islam holds Mary to be worthy of honour as the mother of 'Isa, a prophet chosen by God. But she is not venerated in the Catholic manner. However, she is held as an example of a good Muslimah.
• Genuflection/prostration. This is probably scraping the barrel, but kneeling, prostration (this is used at a priest’s ordination I believe）and bowing are both part of Islamic and Catholic practices. Similarly, the use of the tasbeh (prayer beads) is a similar practice to the Catholic rosary, although the tashbeh is typically used to recite the 99 Names of Allah and not prayers.

**5 Differences! **

• Single most obvious one: Islam rejects the Crucifixion of Christ, or even his divinity. Islam also rejects the current form of the Gospels as corrupt along with Torah.
• Islam has no one central authority unlike the Pope in the Church. There are leaders for various sects, scholarly schools and various authorities, but no central authority.
• Islam permits divorces, and any woman or man can get a divorce. Similarly, as far as I’m ware, there is no system of annulments in Islam. You either remain married or you get divorced.
• Islam rejects the intercession of a person for another, including saints. This applies not just to the Crucifixion, but also to the Catholic principle of the intercession of the saints. Rather, each man is called to account for his own deeds.
• Islam permits the use of family planning, artificial contraception but does not allow adoption due to sharia rulings on inheritances.

Unfortunately I have to disagree with most of your similarities. As the Catholic son of a Muslim, I speak with some experience.
The doctrine of Islam is basically relativist, and very much open to interpretation - due to the fact that they don’t have a particular teaching authority.

In terms of gender roles - I would say this is also open to interpretation - However, taken to it’s logical conclusion - Islam will generally involve the marginalization of women while Catholicism empowers & liberates women.

On Mary - Muslims do believe in the virgin birth but do not believe in Jesus as the son of God. Or the Crucifixion and Resurrection. Or in the divinity of Jesus at all - In fact, Muslims can get quite angry when you attempt to express this aspect of Catholic faith to them…
They Believe Jesus was a wise man - a prophet & a Muslim. Sent to predict the coming of Mohammed & that he will return to defeat Satan at the end of time.

As regards books on Islam - I do recommend the Qur’an itself as well as sacred Scripture. Islam uses scripture as basis for it’s doctrine…the interpretations I have received from Islamic scholars have been flawed in many ways…Knowing the basis for Catholic teaching and how we interpret the bible helps.

There are some good books by Catholic priests & Bible scholars about Islam - I just can’t think of the names of them right now. I’ll get back to you with these. Sorry

I would be happy to discuss this in detail by email or PM if you like.

God Bless

 

[AdamP88]

Oh…on the question of abortion, birth control etc.

Islam really has no inbuilt concept of dignity for the human person…therefore abortion in certain cases are allowed as well as contraception. This usually would require a husband’s permission.

Basically Islam is a hugely male-oriented religion…and also sex oriented.

This can be seen in their view of marriage, divorce etc…

I once had a debate with a Muslim in Dublin about our respective religions. We spoke about the idea of marriage & he asked me why Catholics are not allowed to divorce. I explained that we believed that marriage was a bond that only God could break and that it was a choice made to love a person for an entire lifetime.
His reply to this was (It really astounded me): “what if you got married one day and your wife was in a tragic car accident & couldn’t have sex with you, could you still not divorce?”

This, unfortunately, is typical of the Islamic mindset regarding marriage.

 

[Reuben_J]

In terms of gender roles - I would say this is also open to interpretation - However, taken to it’s logical conclusion - Islam will generally involve the marginalization of women while Catholicism empowers & liberates women.

You make sense in what you say. A Hadith says women comprise the majority of Hell’s occupants. Bukhari (2:28). This may imply that women are more susceptible to sin but even if they don’t, the Quran having said the wives of the wrong-doer are also to be put in hell with their wrong-doer husband. This would put the women in an unfair disadvantage and that may also account for the increase of their number in hell.

*(And it is said unto the angels): Assemble those who did wrong, together with their wives and what they used to worship. 37.22 *

I was trying to say that the teaching of the religion would influence the attitude of the followers in their philosophy of life and how they practice it. Like how they love or hate is very much depending on what the religion teaches them on the subjects.

Hadith like Bukhari 2:28 or Quran 37:22 can in some ways affect Islam’s attitude toward women.

 

[AdamP88]

You make sense in what you say. A Hadith says women comprise the majority of Hell’s occupants. Bukhari (2:28). This may imply that women are more susceptible to sin but even if they don’t, the Quran having said the wives of the wrong-doer are also to be put in hell with their wrong-doer husband. This would put the women in an unfair disadvantage and that may also account for the increase of their number in hell.

*(And it is said unto the angels): Assemble those who did wrong, together with their wives and what they used to worship. 37.22 *

I was trying to say that the teaching of the religion would influence the attitude of the followers in their philosophy of life and how they practice it. Like how they love or hate is very much depending on what the religion teaches them on the subjects.

Hadith like Bukhari 2:28 or Quran 37:22 can in some ways affect Islam’s attitude toward women.

True.

The Islamic view of heaven is also pretty interesting - it basically is the idea of a horde of virgins and this great big eternal orgy.

Essentially it is a male religion and their is no female heaven - unless the only ones who go there are young virgins who have to pleasure the men for all eternity.

I could probably go on about this all day. To me it seems obvious that it was a heresy created from various bits & pieces of scripture by a charismatic guy with fairly average intelligence.

Oh well…I rant on…

 

[Agape_7]

I write to you as a convert to the Catholic faith from the muslim faith. Please read my conversion experience:
As a muslim I was suffering with many problems in my marital life. I was advised by family members to become a “better” muslim by praying five times a day, wearing the muslim dress etc
I did this - and I was becoming increasingly full of despair as my soul was at unease.
As I lay my head on the floor in muslim prayer - I suddenly felt like I was sitting in a sewer full of filth, my head filled with every blasphemous thought against God. I cried out in despair and that is when the Holy spirit came to my defence. The Holy spirit filled my soul with warmth and love and peace. He then took me on a spiritual journey, he took me back to the time when God had made the Angels, and Lucifer would not bow to God as he was full of pride and was jealous of God - he wanted to be worshipped just like God. It took Lucifer 600 years but he eventually bore an ideology/ religion and he called it ISLAM! The Holy spirit showed me how Islam is in direct opposition to Christianity in every single aspect. When Christians pray, they worship God. When muslims pray, they worship Satan. Satan and the dark angels who hehas influenced roam between hell and earth. Satans dwelling place on earth is within the black stoned Kaaba in Mecca were muslims pay pilgrimmage.They pray in the direction of the kaaba so that their thoughts are “aligned” with that of satans.
I heve been a devout catholic since the Holy spirit revealed this revelation to me.

I have so much to tell you in regard to this and how this is our spiritual battle of good and evil manifest in the world today. I would also like to make it very clear that this revelation is by no means a way which to incite hatred towards muslims. As the Holy spirit made it profoundly clear that we are all Gods children, made in the image and likeness of God. It is the religion of Islam that we oppose not the people.

. The Bible talks of the False prophet and satan imprisoned to hell for eternity. That false prophet is the prophet Mohammed and Satan otherwise known as Allah.

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[GaryTaylor]

I write to you as a convert to the Catholic faith from the muslim faith. Please read my conversion experience:
As a muslim I was suffering with many problems in my marital life. I was advised by family members to become a “better” muslim by praying five times a day, wearing the muslim dress etc
I did this - and I was becoming increasingly full of despair as my soul was at unease.
As I lay my head on the floor in muslim prayer - I suddenly felt like I was sitting in a sewer full of filth, my head filled with every blasphemous thought against God. I cried out in despair and that is when the Holy spirit came to my defence. The Holy spirit filled my soul with warmth and love and peace. He then took me on a spiritual journey, he took me back to the time when God had made the Angels, and Lucifer would not bow to God as he was full of pride and was jealous of God - he wanted to be worshipped just like God. It took Lucifer 600 years but he eventually bore an ideology/ religion and he called it ISLAM! The Holy spirit showed me how Islam is in direct opposition to Christianity in every single aspect. When Christians pray, they worship God. When muslims pray, they worship Satan. Satan and the dark angels who hehas influenced roam between hell and earth. Satans dwelling place on earth is within the black stoned Kaaba in Mecca were muslims pay pilgrimmage.They pray in the direction of the kaaba so that their thoughts are “aligned” with that of satans.
I heve been a devout catholic since the Holy spirit revealed this revelation to me.

I have so much to tell you in regard to this and how this is our spiritual battle of good and evil manifest in the world today. I would also like to make it very clear that this revelation is by no means a way which to incite hatred towards muslims. As the Holy spirit made it profoundly clear that we are all Gods children, made in the image and likeness of God. It is the religion of Islam that we oppose not the people.

. The Bible talks of the False prophet and satan imprisoned to hell for eternity. That false prophet is the prophet Mohammed and Satan otherwise known as Allah.

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Certainly you have been Blessed. May you find all the peace you have been seeking. Unfortunately I get the same impression with Islam , as much as I try to see the good, I see evil.

 

[AdamP88]

I write to you as a convert to the Catholic faith from the muslim faith. Please read my conversion experience:
As a muslim I was suffering with many problems in my marital life. I was advised by family members to become a “better” muslim by praying five times a day, wearing the muslim dress etc
I did this - and I was becoming increasingly full of despair as my soul was at unease.
As I lay my head on the floor in muslim prayer - I suddenly felt like I was sitting in a sewer full of filth, my head filled with every blasphemous thought against God. I cried out in despair and that is when the Holy spirit came to my defence. The Holy spirit filled my soul with warmth and love and peace. He then took me on a spiritual journey, he took me back to the time when God had made the Angels, and Lucifer would not bow to God as he was full of pride and was jealous of God - he wanted to be worshipped just like God. It took Lucifer 600 years but he eventually bore an ideology/ religion and he called it ISLAM! The Holy spirit showed me how Islam is in direct opposition to Christianity in every single aspect. When Christians pray, they worship God. When muslims pray, they worship Satan. Satan and the dark angels who hehas influenced roam between hell and earth. Satans dwelling place on earth is within the black stoned Kaaba in Mecca were muslims pay pilgrimmage.They pray in the direction of the kaaba so that their thoughts are “aligned” with that of satans.
I heve been a devout catholic since the Holy spirit revealed this revelation to me.

I have so much to tell you in regard to this and how this is our spiritual battle of good and evil manifest in the world today. I would also like to make it very clear that this revelation is by no means a way which to incite hatred towards muslims. As the Holy spirit made it profoundly clear that we are all Gods children, made in the image and likeness of God. It is the religion of Islam that we oppose not the people.

. The Bible talks of the False prophet and satan imprisoned to hell for eternity. That false prophet is the prophet Mohammed and Satan otherwise known as Allah.

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You are correct - Islam followed to it’s logical end, will produce extremest and suicide bombers.

Christianity followed out, will produce the likes of St. Therese, Mother Teresa, John Paul The Great, St. Dominic Savio, St Maria Goretti…this list goes on…

 

[Agape_7]

I think the reality of it is that muslims model themselves on Satan, satan was one of the most good looking angels that God had created, thus muslims place alot of importance on physical beauty. In contrast Christ taught us that it is not on our outward appearance that we are judged on, Christ the Judge of all, looks within our hearts. Muslims in general are quite full of self importance and arrogance just like their Leader- Satan otherwise known as Allah.

Thus in conclusion, muslims model themselves on Satan.
Christians model themselves on Christ Jesus.

 

[Mickey]

When Christians pray, they worship God. When muslims pray, they worship Satan.

According to your statement above…how do you reconcile this statement from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

(CCC 841) “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

 

[AdamP88]

According to your statement above…how do you reconcile this statement from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

(CCC 841) “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

While Agape7 is correct on some things he I do not believe Islam is Satan worship. And neither does the Church teach this - as pointed out by Mickey.
However, while Islam does worship one God, it is a very distorted version of the Trinitarian God which does not incorporate either Father, Son or Holy spirit - But only Master and Slave.

This was an invention of Mohammed - a charismatic warlord - to gain a following.

 

[Agape_7]

Just as some peoples hearts are more “open” to the word of God. God uses these people as vessels to help carry out his plan of salvation.

Some peoples hearts are more “open” to the words of satan and help Satan in his plan of distorting the world of its truth.

Muslims are spiritually oppressed. They are thirsting for the quenching truth of our Lord Jesus Christ.

When Jesus says in the bible that “He will draw all men unto him”. I believe that he will expose the satanic truths behind Islam and many muslims will convert to the Catholic faith.

God the Father loves all his children, he would like to see all of us saved. But Muslims must accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God and recognise his Godly divinity as one of the Holy Trinity.

 

[Agape_7]

Distort, Deviate all derived from the word “Devil”

The Quran is a “deviation” from the Bible. The Quran was inspired by Satan (Allah)

Satan was one of the most intelligent angels made by God. He used the familiarity of the Bible to breed his evil distorted falsities.

It is true that Judaism and Christianity overlap. Some people put Judaaism, Christianity and Islam under one umbrella. This is very wrong. Islam is from Satan (Allah) and Christianity is from God.

Didn’t Jesus warn us already when He said “that after me will come many false prophets”
Was he not referring to the prophet mohammed.

Remember that when Satan was thrown out of Heaven due to his rebellion. He promised God that he would make Gods people worship him and he acheived this through his introduction of Islam.

Muslims that worship Satan (Allah), mirror Satans attributes.

They believe they are more important than anyone else.
They do things that only benefit themselves
They seek praise from fellow humans for their misconduct
They give too much importance to money/wealth (look at the rich Arab nations)
They incite hatred towards the “west” (incite hatred towards God)
They use women as sex objects (there exists no “companionship” in their marraiges)
But most importantly - They try to take the"credit" for Gods creation.

Remember Satan impersonates God. Isn’t that what Allah is doing? Satan is an imposter. His ultimate aim is to make right - wrong
and wrong - right.

Isn,t that what is happening in the world today.

 

[AdamP88]

Distort, Deviate all derived from the word “Devil”

The Quran is a “deviation” from the Bible. The Quran was inspired by Satan (Allah)

Satan was one of the most intelligent angels made by God. He used the familiarity of the Bible to breed his evil distorted falsities.

It is true that Judaism and Christianity overlap. Some people put Judaaism, Christianity and Islam under one umbrella. This is very wrong. Islam is from Satan (Allah) and Christianity is from God.

Didn’t Jesus warn us already when He said “that after me will come many false prophets”
Was he not referring to the prophet mohammed.

Remember that when Satan was thrown out of Heaven due to his rebellion. He promised God that he would make Gods people worship him and he acheived this through his introduction of Islam.

Muslims that worship Satan (Allah), mirror Satans attributes.

They believe they are more important than anyone else.
They do things that only benefit themselves
They seek praise from fellow humans for their misconduct
They give too much importance to money/wealth (look at the rich Arab nations)
They incite hatred towards the “west” (incite hatred towards God)
They use women as sex objects (there exists no “companionship” in their marraiges)
But most importantly - They try to take the"credit" for Gods creation.

Remember Satan impersonates God. Isn’t that what Allah is doing? Satan is an imposter. His ultimate aim is to make right - wrong
and wrong - right.

Isn,t that what is happening in the world today.

I’m afraid I totally disagree with some of these points…as would Catholic Church teaching.
Firstly - you cannot equate Islam with Satanism. Islam was really a Catholic/Judeo-Christian heresy.
While the Church does teach that the path to truth & salvation is through Christ there is no Church teaching that excludes peoples of other faiths from heaven - the opposite is actually true.

While it can be said that Christians & Muslims view God hugely differently - it is still the same God - the God of Abraham. Muslims should be brought on board and evangelised but to accuse them of Satanism & worshiping the Devil is inaccurate & wrong.

 

[AdamP88]

They incite hatred towards the “west” (incite hatred towards God)

Oh…just on this point. Perhaps some Muslims do incite hatred toward the west…but that is not equivalent to hatred against God.

America, Europe & the western world does not equal God.

 

[Agape_7]

Firstly I’d like to reiterate that in accordance with Christian belief I believe that we are all Gods Children, made in the image and likeness of God and God wants salvation for all of us. We must not forget that this world is under the influence of Satan and those of us who are seeking the Kingdom of God are not “attached” to this world but are more aware of the “pitfalls”

Muslims do not refer to God as “God” they refer to him as Allah.

I walked into a large mosque in London, where a speaker system was in operation. Speakers through out the mosque were claiming that the word “God” spelt backwards was “Dog” and that God was infact a Dog. If muslims revere God then why where they preaching against Him? Is this not the works of Satan?

I don’t believe that muslims will not be allowed into Heaven…
They have been following Satan in innocence (most of them)

The bible talks alot of spiritual blindness and I truely believe that Islam presents itself as a form of spiritual blindness.

Let us pray for our fellow muslims that God removes the darkness of their spiritual blindness and brings them into the light of Christian Truth.

 

[AdamP88]

Speakers through out the mosque were claiming that the word “God” spelt backwards was “Dog” and that God was infact a Dog. If muslims revere God then why where they preaching against Him? Is this not the works of Satan?

This is actually not the work of Satan, God spelled backward is dog…part of the reason Dogs are called “dogs” in the English language is because of this and because dogs have always been important to man.

Another thing is that there is a massive importance placed on the Koran in it’s original Arabic. It is not considered to be genuine unless recited in the original language. That is also where Allah comes into it…Allah merely means God. I do think Islam is a heretical faith…but I have an Islamic Father, Sisters, Grandfather, Grandmother & cousins…All of these people love their faith as much as I love the Lord Jesus and Catholicism.
I do not believe they worship Satan. I believe Satan can work through anyone to commit evil, even a catholic priest - as in the horrific cases of child sex abuse.