A Sinless Mary

[Vince1022]

Actually Jesus saved us in His adorable humanity, not his divinity.

That’s one theory, but not taught by the Catholic Church.

 

[Vince1022]

I don’t think Mary was sinless because she had a human nature like the rest of us.

That’s fine. Different than what Catholics believe, though.

 

[runningdude]

He was the Son of Man and the Son of God i.e. human and Divine. Our Lord preferred to use the term “Son of Man” to call attention to His Incarnation since most Jews of His day regarded themselves as “sons of God.” To Him to have called Himself, “Son of God” would have indicated to the Jews that He was just another Jew, like them!

As “Son of Man” He was still a Divine Son, a COMPOSITE being and never a “human being” (which would be heresy, if I understand correctly).

As a composite being, He was a Divine Person with two Natures - period.

That He was sinless goes without saying. It was the union of God with Man in Christ Jesus that already secured our salvation that culminated in His act of obedience, even unto the Cross.

So please refrain, brother, from calling our Lord a “human being.”

(emphasis added)
Alex

Heresy requires manifest disobedience to rightful authority.

I merely used a short hand to describe Jesus for dramatic irony. “Jesus Christ, alone, is the only human being sinless by His own merits” because,* his merits* actually include being the God the Son.

If the use of literary devices were a heresy, then much of the bible would be heresy! :bigyikes:

 

[Wesley7]

DId you take your sn from John Wesley, the reformer? If you did , you might want to know that he believed in the sinlessness of Mary and had a strong Marian devotion

No that is my first name.

 

[Wesley7]

DId you take your sn from John Wesley, the reformer? If you did , you might want to know that he believed in the sinlessness of Mary and had a strong Marian devotion

No, that is my real first name.

 

[Wesley7]

So when Jesus commanded us saying, “Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect”, He was basically lying because we have a human nature and that would be impossible? Or you are just wrong. What do you think?

I think since she was the Virgin Mother of Jesus she retained her humanity like the rest of us.

 

[StTommyMore]

I think since she was the Virgin Mother of Jesus she retained her humanity like the rest of us.

“Humanity” does not mean “sinful.” Jesus was fully human. Adam and Eve were created utterly perfect and without sin. Your argument doesn’t rally say anything, other than Mary was human, which we all agree on.