A theocracy is the best form of catholic government

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I know you are Irish, and I have a passing knowledge of your history.
 
Yeah, I read How Ireland saved civilization. 👍 I’ll leave you alone now.
 
Mickey_Finn said:
What would the Irish know about living under a Monarchy?

Oh that’s right, never mind.😃
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Living under a government that has set out to brutally exploit your homeland and your people is never pleasant regardless of the government type.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
I think any theocracy, regardless of the religious tradition on which it is based, ends up being essentially North Korea. If you liked Sharia…
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North Korea is an example of the state being the religion. I can’t imagine the religion being the state can go much better.
 
St_Francis said:
In a good Cathoiclic society, almost any form of government will work well, in a bad non-Catholic society, any form of government will work badly.

We don’t need to change the form of government, we need to pray and evangelize!
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Looks awkwardly at the first crusade, Charlemagne, the Spanish inquisition, and Olaf Trygfason. Frankly respecting people is the important bit in my opinion.
 
It depends on what kind of theocracy. The Vatican is a theocracy, and they do a lot better than most governments. But, one could argue that it’s because we have had some good and holy Popes in the recent centuries. I suppose if a “bad Pope” ever got elected it wouldn’t work so well.
 
Adamski said:
Lets get real the worst part of democracy is everyone gets to vote the uninformed the uneducated the lazy and so on. Including people who support a culture of death

By far the best form of government would be a monarchy that supports all catholic teachings why as catholics aren’t we pushing this more
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A theocracy in any form is not wise. History is replete with the problematic nature of theocracy no matter how well intended. Strictly speaking, I would much rather live in a democracy. BTW: I would be interested to know if your definition of “a culture of death” is inclusive of the death penalty?
 
universityprof said:
A theocracy in any form is not wise. History is replete with the problematic nature of theocracy no matter how well intended. Strictly speaking, I would much rather live in a democracy. BTW: I would be interested to know if your definition of “a culture of death” is inclusive of the death penalty?
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The Vatican is a theocracy. Should we disestablish the sovereignty of the Vatican?
 
universityprof said:
A theocracy in any form is not wise. History is replete with the problematic nature of theocracy no matter how well intended.
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I agree! History tells us that the church allied with human government has never worked well. A system of checks and balances is required because power corrupts.
 
My sources : the voice of my consciousness, the experience of the past when christian values were taken into account.
 
Caladrius said:
Democracy is horrible: secular, man-centered mob-rule.

Theocracy is even worse, however, for it establishes the Church entirely within the State, and marries the State to the Church. This is absolutely horrible, because - despite pious sentiments about baptizing politics - it is always the Church that is corrupted by the state, and not the other way around.

When the state is the church and vice versa, bishops become fat, priests become rich, and the religious are turned into agents of the ministers. The Church is entangled in deceit, treachery, lies, bribery, and corruption. Men are not so strong as to hold back from endless benefices and gifts. The most Catholic countries with an established Church were also creators of the worst evil: France gave us Voltaire, for example, because Voltaire saw the endless corruption of French bishops and thought this discredited the Church. Though he was wrong, it is the common thing that happens to the population in such kingdoms and nations. In this life, theocracy leads to the death of souls, for men are disobedient: clergy and laity alike.

Separation of church and state may be an atheistic communist debating point, but I think even the worst enemies of the church are correct to want separation. It preserves the Church from the horrible influences of the fallen state.
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Good points.

I DO think democracy in America, at least, is in an awfully damn shabby state, where even the ostensible “good guys” are being paid off by Wall Street, and there’s no voice for the common man and the common good. Instead, it’s whichever special interest has managed to grab power and collect the PAC funds.

There is a general despair about politics, which makes citizens less interested in keeping informed and participating, continuing the vicious cycle downward.

I live in Illinois. Can you tell?
 
Can I be the monarch!??..I would ban usury,abortion,same sex marriage and would elevate mums at home raising children and wallop any one who opposed me! Because they are essential to a peaceful society!
 
I would think the most important aspect of any form of government is it’s moral foundation and expectation of moral behavior.
 
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