I think Planned Parenthood*** takes advantag***e of women in crisis and gives them false solutions to their problems. So yes, in that sense, they are focussing on the women in crisis, just like a molester might focus on a child to gain their trust. Or like a terrorist recruiter might “focus” on a youth to make them a suicide bomber. etc. etc. I hardly see that as a kind of positive “focussing”. I hope you see the disctinction. The pro-life movement, on the other hand, tries to help the women in crisis by giving them solutions - adoption, e.g that don’t involve killing the baby.
As I mentioned earlier, the abortion lobby skillfully propogandizes to convince people that having a baby is much worse than killing it. Remember our own president Obama who said he didn’t want his children “punished with a baby”. Maybe that’s why young women think a baby from a crisis pregnancy is worse than abortion, ya think? Of course, don’t forget the trash that is fed into young minds everywhere courtesy of the mainstream media, movies, pop culture, and public education.
Well, thanks for your willingness to admit the truth about NARAL. But so what? Even if I grant what you’re saying is true for the sake of argument, consider the result of NARAL’s efforts: millions of unborn killed and doctors like Gosnell. The result of NRA? Millions of owners of guns. The two groups are NOT “exactly the same”. One is evil, the other is a lobbying group on the side of gun owners/manufactures. Do you think that having a gun is evil like having an abortion? Bellasbane, reading this thread something occurred to me and I hope you take it to heart: perhaps there would be more interest and consideration for pro-life strategies if they were expressed by someone who doesn’t support the party which is joined at the hip with the same group of people (NARAL, etc. ) which made possible this monster, Dr. Gosnell. I know that I have a hard time taking advice on effective pro-life strategies from anyone who would defend Democrats regularly. Its about credibility.
Ishii thank you! Perfectly said and on point (unlike the NRA reference which is totally irrelevant as well as off topic.
Uh huh…that’s what Jesus wants you to do…AS YOU CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR AND SUPPORT PRO-ABORTION POLITICIANS AND THE PARTY OF DEATH. Personally, I don’t think that is what Jesus would do. You should ask Cardinal O’Malley how he feels about it. I believe the term he used in the quote I provided earlier was “scandalous.”
Wanted to address this separately as I have never heard of this concept. When I did a search I could not find a single reference to TRAP laws that was not provided by a pro-abortion group. Even Wikipedia had nothing but a definition and a link to a pro abortion group’s site.
lifenews.com/2013/04/24/fox-news-will-air-one-hour-special-sunday-on-kermit-gosnell
lifesitenews.com/news/gosnell-judge-reinstates-one-murder-charge-dismisses-another
While it is disappointing that he threw out the Baby B case particularly, I suspect he wanted to limit the charges to those where the child showed distinct evidence of being born alive. Although I bet we all agree that Baby B was born alive and then killed by the scissors snip to his neck, apparently there is no testimony that he moved, breathed or showed other signs of life as did Baby C.
Mississippi was the first state to attempt to outlaw abortion using a law that specifically targeted abortion providers:
Thank you for the references as I couldn’t find anything that was even reasonably impartial on my own search. OK I did read the information posted. Coming from a medical practice, I saw the requirments as being related to patient care and this is what was noted in the article:
The same thing goes for free speech.
Even the Supreme Court has not ruled that abortion is a right protected by the Constitution. They’ve ruled it legal due to an assumed “right of privacy.” Many legal experts, including Justice Ginsburg have considered Roe v Wade to be an overreach of the courts.
The people who work in pregnancy crisis centers are not the problem - they are part of the solution. Raising awareness about what they do is a key strategy in learning to focus more on the women.
I think they are good at convincing people because they truly believe it themselves. They want immediate solutions to a problem that requires a complete overhaul of the culture in order to fix. The solution for the pro-life side is to present a compelling alternative to their vision of the future. A Culture of Life is a compelling alternative.
Too bad you had to add that last dig. It really saddens me that you always have to bring it back to politics. It makes we wonder what your true agenda might be.
Agree.
Well, my experience with the pro-life movement is that it is sympathetic to women who have in fact had abortions - emphasizing God’s mercy, etc - project Rachel, e.g. We need to be merciful toward women who have had abortions, just like we should show mercy to any sinner, of course. I hear a lot of contempt toward Planned Parenthood and pro-abortion rights politicians, but I don’t know about contempt towards the women in crisis pregnancies themselves.
I know. I read all the posts. I am sorry that you felt mocked and ridiculed. Perhaps the posters meant to contrast the transvaginal ultrasounds with the procedure of abortion which would seem to be much, much more humiliating and invasive. You have to understand that after 40 years of Roe V Wade and millions upon millions of abortions of babies, sometimes we pro-life folks get frustrated and forget that we need to be constructive in our arguments even when we are frustrated and feel that our arguments are a no brainer for any Catholic.
I think that is a very positive and life-affirming idea, Bellasbane. Abortion should be better promoted as an alternative to abortion. Agreed.
Well, sorry if I offended you. We have a duty as citizens living in a country that has elections than have implications on whether our laws will protect the unborn or not. In other words, don’t forget the political side - we need to work toward laws that respect life. And no, the NRA pales in comparison to NARAL which seeks to continue the legal slaughter of the unborn. The NRA merely seeks to protect the interests of legal gun owners and gun manufacturers. Even if you are making good points elsewhere, you are off base in lumping the NRA and NARAL.
Bolding mine.
Did you mean adoption?