Abortion Documentary

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I am posting this on this forum rather than the media because of its content. It is a review by Manohla Dargis in the New York Times October 3, 2007, page B1, of a film Lake of Fire. The headline is “Abortion as a Front Line in the Culture Wars: Graphic and Unnerving on Both Sides.” I have not seen the film (and am unlikely to since I doubt it will be shown in the provinces). One line from the review: “…you should know about this fascinating, discomforting, at times unpleasant, confused and confusing film is that it sets off extremely graphic images of actual abortions against a notorious photograph of a woman who died after an illegal motel room abortion, visuals that are inflammatory if, for the most part, also germaine.” The extreme images include a doctor picking through a tray of the remains of a second trimester abortion among others. Quite frankly, I am unsure what to make of the review except that it is as close to a pro-life position anyone will ever see in the Times (Still, not yet close enought). The reviewer writes “If nothing else, the first abortion in the film,reinforces what an abstraction the term “pro choice” really is.” I would appreciate your comments on the review and your comments on the film if you have seen it. If this belongs in the Media forum, I trust it will be moved.

movies.nytimes.com/2007/10/03/movies/03fire.html?ref=movies
 
mschrank said:
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I read the review (school has free NY Times everyday) and I wasn’t sure how I felt.
The realities were shown, but will it change hearts? What was the purpose for the documentary anyway, I couldn’t seem to find it anywhere.
 
I’m a member of some other internet forums. Seems to me that the best thing we can do it post the movie review in other places where others can see it. After reading it, it seems to be something we want people to see. The more disturbed people are over the issue of abortion, the more likely they will oppose it. This movie sounds very disturbing. I posted it where there are many known pro-abortion supporters. It might soften their views?
 
I say spread the word about this film and encourage people to see it especially pro choice people. From what you describe it sound like and graphic film , but it also shows the truth about abortion. The church should never shy away from the truth no matter how unpleasant it is.
 
We have yet another discussion going on the use of “graphic images” in fighting abortion.

This thread is more evidence that those images need to be shown – because far too many otherwise good people simply sweep the issue under the rug. If we don’t see what abortion is, it becomes an abstraction.
 
vern_humphrey said:
… those images need to be shown – because far too many otherwise good people simply sweep the issue under the rug. If we don’t see what abortion is, it becomes an abstraction.
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Vern, I’m going to totally agree. Interestingly on the forum where I posted the movie review, all the folks who are Pro-Abortion have remained silent. There were a few people who responded to the thread, which I innocently posted in the “Entertainment” section of that forum, and the people who responded were Pro-Life.

I wonder why the normally vocal Pro-Abortion folks kept their mouths shut:rolleyes:

So I agree with the use of graphic images to help end abortion. Let people see the reality of what it is. What it does. What it looks like up close.

We don’t hide the pictures of what the Germans did to the Jews do we? Why would this be different?
 
melensdad said:
Vern, I’m going to totally agree. Interestingly on the forum where I posted the movie review, all the folks who are Pro-Abortion have remained silent. There were a few people who responded to the thread, which I innocently posted in the “Entertainment” section of that forum, and the people who responded were Pro-Life.

I wonder why the normally vocal Pro-Abortion folks kept their mouths shut:rolleyes:

So I agree with the use of graphic images to help end abortion. Let people see the reality of what it is. What it does. What it looks like up close.

We don’t hide the pictures of what the Germans did to the Jews do we? Why would this be different?
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As I have mentioned before, I was about 3 1/2 and was at the movies (the old Majestic Theater in Lake Charles, LA) when the first pictures of the concentration camps wer shown in all their grisly horror. It came right before the Mickey Mouse cartoon as I remember.

And it did me a world of good – I will never be tempted to support any kind of dictatorship!
 
melensdad said:
I wonder why the normally vocal Pro-Abortion folks kept their mouths shut:rolleyes:
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I have a strong hunch that the majority of pro-abortion advocates are pro-abortion through ignorance.
So I agree with the use of graphic images to help end abortion. Let people see the reality of what it is. What it does. What it looks like up close.
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And that is the whole idea, to try to convince so many people, who if they otherwise knew the reality, would never agree to such horror.
 
“Abortion does end the life of something,” she admits. But what might that be? She waves her hands a bit at all the possible answers – maybe it’s “an embryo, a baby, God’s creation, a blob of cells.”
That’s a shame. She might have looked for clues among the gruesome results of one of those earlier abortions: “a perfect-looking tiny hand and a foot,” and a “severed fetal head” with “one eerily bulging eye.” For Dargis to conclude that abortion “ends the life of something” shows a disconnect with reality that is only slightly less stunning than the fact that millions of Americans share it.
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If nothing else, a film that actually shows the “results” of abortion may carry a far greater influence more expeditiously than the legal maneuvers we’ve been attempting for decades. A film like this is akin to many thousands of sonograms being viewed at once by women who may be unconvinced that what they are carrying is more than just a “blob of cells”.
 
blessedtoo said:
If nothing else, a film that actually shows the “results” of abortion may carry a far greater influence more expeditiously than the legal maneuvers we’ve been attempting for decades. A film like this is akin to many thousands of sonograms being viewed at once by women who may be unconvinced that what they are carrying is more than just a “blob of cells”.
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I agree; this is an excellent way for those who suffer a “disconnect with reality” to be brought face to face with the reality they are trying so hard to ignore.

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