Abortion is a Satanic Sacrifice

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i want to make sure i am understanding these last posts correctly,are you accusing we who question the op’s credentials of being demons or evil spirits? or under the influence of same ?:confused:
under influence.

I don’t refer to posters as evil spirits. We are just the eyes, ears, and hands of the spirits so if they’re evil they will make themselves known one way or the other in the way we write and the way we perceive what is being written, both.

However, as it turns out, in the case of St. Dogbert it turned out that the evil spirits were apparently a bit more tangible:

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under influence.

I don’t refer to posters as evil spirits. We are just the eyes, ears, and hands of the spirits so if they’re evil they will make themselves known one way or the other in the way we write and the way we perceive what is being written, both.
these are slanderous assumptions
 
Gotta go guys,

It’s been enlightening and fun. God bless you all.

Mangy dog.
 
these are slanderous assumptions
How so?

Are we, or are we not, influenced by spirits every day? Both good and evil?

If the answer is: “we are” then take back your accusation that I’m making slanderous accusations.

If the answer is: “we are not” then I stand corrected, and we can all now graduate from Christianity free and clear because we’ve been totally cleansed.

Alan
 
lmryl, can you prove that you were a satanist? If you can, can you prove that you are still not one now? Would you know the truth if you heard/saw it? Would you accept the truth if you heard/saw it? I see that you are still using “satanist” tactics here, which are to infiltrate and cause unrest and division, that is, if you ever were/are one…I am certainly not seeing “authentic” Catholic behavior.
I can prove that I was a satanist, yes. Friends, family (husband in particular), and priests. I can direct you - if you’re interested, but even if you are, you would be SORELY disappointed - to where you can find and talk to various sorts of Satanists… from the pantheistic, polytheistic, atheistic and monotheistic flavors.

If someone could provide me with the intellectual and moral certainty, I would of course accept it. As I have, being that I’m catholic.

There’s no tactic here. This is common sense. You should be reading my posts with the sense of astonishment that they are written. I have only been curt to Zachary, and that is because I know when he’s just feeding the frenzy vs. when he’s saying something true.

Think of it in the sense of someone saying something you know is patently false about Catholicism, not because it’s true, but because they know so-and-so was brought up believing something like Catholic’s worship idols. It’s an attempt to feed the misinformation about Catholics and Catholicism.

I’m not saying satanists are flower girls/boys and sorely misunderstood. I’m saying this guy is playing with your imagination. Like back in the 80’s when there was all the press about “Satanic Ritual Abuse”, or whatever it was called.
 
How so?

Are we, or are we not, influenced by spirits every day? Both good and evil?

If the answer is: “we are” then take back your accusation that I’m making slanderous accusations.

If the answer is: “we are not” then I stand corrected, and we can all now graduate from Christianity free and clear because we’ve been totally cleansed.

Alan
well played ,sir , well played. mr.obtuse.
 
I don’t find it that hard to believe at all. Somewhere out there, someone is asking Satan to accept all the aborted babies as sacrifice. That’s not an absurd statement or concept to comprehend.
Certainly. I think it’s part of the the Divine Mercy chaplet that we offer all the masses said around the world to God for the atonement of our sins?

Personally, practical experience in matters mystical trumps opinions formed by reading other people opinions in books or forums. Zachin’s statements should be analysed rather than his person.

This thread is totally derailed and I’m stopping reading the most obfuscatory posters. Same old same old: ad-hominem attacks and requests for documentation.
 
So since you know everything about satanism, then tell us the truth.
I never said I know “everything” about Satanism. But I know a lot about it having come from that area, particular of the eastern United States.
Do satanists have the sort of sacrificial abortions the OP described in the 13 minute video, or not?
I have not watched this most recent video of his, but if he’s claiming that it occurred in the United States, I would say, No. Do I believe satanists would do such a thing given the opportunity? Of course I do, depending on the sort of satanist we’re talking about. But satanists do not have vast amounts of wealth tucked away. There is no global organization of satanism, no huge conspiracy. In fact, in the last 10 years or so they’ve moved to being liberal activist, kubaya, live and let live, “woe are we, so persecuted by Christians”. It’s rather pathetic actually.
If not, then let’s have an all-out evidence war. Because I can hardly believe that it doesn’t happen. If an ex-satanist had come here saying they don’t sacrifice killing of babies to satan THEN I’d be “astounded.”
It doesn’t matter if they’re satanist or your average fallen Christian, human beings will do the most depraved and deviant things. I know that in Africa there are childern called “Ming babies”. It is a tribal belief that if you get pregnant outside of wedlock, the baby is “cursed”. They are frequently left out in the elements, with sand dropped in their mouths. There is no prohibition of sex before marriage, but the children that result from premarital sex are left outside to die. Satanic? Yes. Product of satanism in particular? No.
And if they do, then what is your REAL beef with the OP? Stole your spotlight?
My beef is that his purpose is to spread misinformation to unknowing Catholics for self gain and self advancement. The place I call home, and those I consider brothers and sisters.

What happens when you see your little brother/sister being lead away from the playground by a stranger?
 
I can prove that I was a satanist, yes. Friends, family (husband in particular), and priests. I can direct you - if you’re interested, but even if you are, you would be SORELY disappointed - to where you can find and talk to various sorts of Satanists… from the pantheistic, polytheistic, atheistic and monotheistic flavors.
Thank you for your answer.

I am interested. I want to know more about the “enemy” and the tactics, and what better way to do that, than to hang around them at the water cooler? After all, if satan’s people can infiltrate our church, why can’t I infiltrate theirs? I’d like to go in stealth, or at least read what they’re saying. Please feel free to PM me with the information.
Think of it in the sense of someone saying something you know is patently false about Catholicism, not because it’s true, but because they know so-and-so was brought up believing something like Catholic’s worship idols. It’s an attempt to feed the misinformation about Catholics and Catholicism.
That raises the question of just how organized satan’s churches are. If we look at Catholicism, we have bitter debates every hour about what Catholics think and do and say, among Catholics who were raised in different areas.

When I was reading your questions, I didn’t get the “obviousness” you see. Unless satan is one heck of a lot more organized with his churches than God, then the variations from one section to another seem like they would make it hard to press such an assertion.

For example: One person says, “when I was Catholic, we all knelt for Communion and we’d get whacked if we weren’t kneeling perfectly straight, hands folded, eyes forward and slightly lowered.” A younger person would say, “what? They do nothing of the sort. The only time we EVER kneel is when we are in our pews.”

So what about your observations are sufficiently universal that they appear to you as if they apply? That’s what the rest of us aren’t getting. Just a bunch of fanstastic claims and disclaimers.

I don’t believe everything I hear, but I do tentatively “accept” (with a yellow flag) that these things haven’t been verified. One thing that is entirely important to me, and served me well as an engineer, is to be very careful about what I think v. what I know.
I’m not saying satanists are flower girls/boys and sorely misunderstood. I’m saying this guy is playing with your imagination. Like back in the 80’s when there was all the press about “Satanic Ritual Abuse”, or whatever it was called.
So are you claiming that there are not satanists who have rituals in which there is a doctor who performs an abortion, and then the dead baby’s body and blood are divided and shared? Yes that is pretty sensational, but is it false?

Alan
 
I never said I know “everything” about Satanism. But I know a lot about it having come from that area, particular of the eastern United States.

I have not watched this most recent video of his, but if he’s claiming that it occurred in the United States, I would say, No. Do I believe satanists would do such a thing given the opportunity? Of course I do, depending on the sort of satanist we’re talking about. But satanists do not have vast amounts of wealth tucked away. There is no global organization of satanism, no huge conspiracy. In fact, in the last 10 years or so they’ve moved to being liberal activist, kubaya, live and let live, “woe are we, so persecuted by Christians”. It’s rather pathetic actually.

It doesn’t matter if they’re satanist or your average fallen Christian, human beings will do the most depraved and deviant things. I know that in Africa there are childern called “Ming babies”. It is a tribal belief that if you get pregnant outside of wedlock, the baby is “cursed”. They are frequently left out in the elements, with sand dropped in their mouths. There is no prohibition of sex before marriage, but the children that result from premarital sex are left outside to die. Satanic? Yes. Product of satanism in particular? No.

My beef is that his purpose is to spread misinformation to unknowing Catholics for self gain and self advancement. The place I call home, and those I consider brothers and sisters.

What happens when you see your little brother/sister being lead away from the playground by a stranger?
Question… How do you know for certain there is no “global conspiracy” to satanism? Like we see with the freemasons and other groups, the lower ranking members often do not have access or even know about the true mission and goals of the group and are just used as.pawns by the top tier members. So could it be that you’re just as unaware as the rest of us? I have seen interactions between freemasons and satanists in the workplace, I believe there is something more to it.
 
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