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realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/20/date_night_at_the_abortion_movie_123029.html A romantic comedy movie has been made about an abortion- all very well-reviewed by the usual suspects. We are hitting new moral lows every day in this country. Has anyone else heard of this movie? How can an abortion be considered entertainment, and even worse, a comedy?? Some of the positive reviews also take digs at pro-life Christians. I’ve included a link to the only negative review that I found. So sad.
 
I should add that it premiered at Sundance film festival and has been in limited theaters as a pre-screen movie until this month when it is scheduled for release. :mad:
 
What can anyone say? It’s a planned Parenthood movie, apparently, complete with blatant product placement.

It’s not, I suppose, a surprise that a movie that considers something along the lines of “I’m killing my baby tomorrow” a joke would be well reviewed by e.g., the Washington Post. And I don’t suppose it has to make much money, what with the PP funding.

As this is a public forum, I can’t adequately state my feelings about the director’s comment that “We’re not trying to push envelopes or buttons.” The closest I can come is, :banghead:

–Jen
 
revert_jen said:
As this is a public forum, I can’t adequately state my feelings about the director’s comment that “We’re not trying to push envelopes or buttons.” The closest I can come is, :banghead:
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Allow me to join you.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

:stretcher:

:blackeye:
 
:banghead::banghead: I’m with y’all! Thanks for the laugh! Seriously, I’m praying that the movie may have the opposite effect of intended- and that the casual treatment of abortion might cause some who favor it to re-think their stance. From the review, the jokes are in horrible taste and repulsive. For instance, before the comedian goes on stage, her friend says “I hope you kill it out there” and she replies that no, she already has an appointment to kill it tomorrow. Morally bankrupt and not funny at all! Makes me sad and furious all at the same time!
 
Wasn’t Jenny Slate the one who got kicked off SNL (for dropping an F-bomb on live TV on HER FIRST EPISODE)?

I don’t think it’s wrong to discuss abortion in the media - I think that much of the problems we have evangelizing about the evils of abortion is that it isn’t discussed, or when it is discussed it’s in an abstract context (“I’m for women’s rights though I’d never get an abortion myself”) or somehow couched as a solution to a greater evil (“Would you make a woman bear her rapist’s child?”). What isn’t discussed is something like the scenario in the movie - a woman does something stupid and ends up pregnant. Not wanting to or being able to support a child, she can either adopt or abort. If that comes up as an honest conversation in the movie, then I welcome it.

What the movie doesn’t have is the statistically-average abortion - black, young and poor. Instead we have funny, white, New York Jewish girl from a divorced family.

And do we know whether she has the abortion? I think the movie wanted to make the point - “Pro-choice doesn’t mean you have to have the abortion. Just that you have the option frames the decision itself.” I hope that, if Slate’s character doesn’t have the abortion, there’s at least an honest discussion about it. I think both sides need to be treated with gravity or the conversation won’t be accepted. If she does have the abortion, does she have any feelings about it? Or is it just “Oh, well, I can get on with life?”

Think Juno, which would have probably collapsed and burned if the plot had instead been:
  • Juno’s adoption falls through as Jennifer Garner’s character decides to move back to NY.
  • Juno asks Paulie to take her to the abortion clinic.
  • Paulie decides he can’t do it, so Juno drives herself.
  • The movie ends with Juno, calling Paulie and asking him to please pick up, but he doesn’t, and then she collapses sobbing uncontrollably by herself in her room.
So I’m not going to condemn the film before I see it but I really hope that at least some things are taken seriously. While I didn’t appreciate the morals in “Friends with Benefits” I do appreciate at least the connection between body and heart, that you can’t just have a string of one-night-stands and that sex isn’t meaningless. No, I didn’t expect the film to show them being chaste and getting married, and I don’t like that it seems to say “Ladies, sleep with the guy and he’ll eventually fall for you” but at least it got the “get intimate with someone and your’re going to have feelings for them” part right. If we could just frame the discussion like that to young men, “Hey, don’t sleep with a girl unless you’re ready to break her heart.”
 
Losh14, Read the review I posted in the opening post. The movie is a “romantic comedy” about a girl who has an abortion. She doesn’t question or soul search or discuss. She announces during her comedy act that she’s pregnant and getting an abortion the next day - with the father of the child finding out while sitting as an invited member of the comedy show audience. Sadly, he’s great with it- accompanying her to the abortion clinic and sitting with her post-abortion while watching "Gone with the “Wind.” The movie is meant to show the “positive” experience of an abortion while also providing laughs. It really IS a sad, morally bankrupt premise for a movie.
 
That’s… disturbing to say the very least. And I’m a person who generally gives a huge amount of leeway when it comes to anything intended to be comedic. I just don’t see how abortion makes any kind of sense in a romantic comedy at all. It just doesn’t fit in with the conventions of the genre. To me this is probably one of the most obvious examples of how the public will totally suspend their critical judgement because they like whatever ideology is being portrayed.
 
Wow! Thanks, Mary Gail! I hadn’t seen that review! Very insightfull.
 
marbleartist said:
:banghead::banghead: I’m with y’all! Thanks for the laugh! Seriously, I’m praying that the movie may have the opposite effect of intended- and that the casual treatment of abortion might cause some who favor it to re-think their stance. From the review, the jokes are in horrible taste and repulsive. For instance, before the comedian goes on stage, her friend says “I hope you kill it out there” and she replies that no, she already has an appointment to kill it tomorrow. Morally bankrupt and not funny at all! Makes me sad and furious all at the same time!
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:mad::mad::mad:So she knows she actually is killing her child…and jokes about it…and we’re supposed to laugh along with her???

I feel physically sick right now.

Lord, have mercy…
 
Ultimately, the filmmaker (ironic her last name is Robespierre, isn’t it?) and the actors did not make the movie for US, the Religious Conservative Christian folks.

They made it for the secular, feminist, (reviews on IMDB already are labeling this as a feminist movie), anti-God, anti-Christian, sexually promiscuous “majority” people who are slowly taking over the soul of our society. They themselves would be BEYOND SHOCKED if Christians as a mass were to go see the movie-----remember that.

So, in a way, I don’t see why anybody should be surprised at this. Or bother to be THAT outraged.
Ultimately, they had a right to make the movie and the public will make a decision on whether it will be a “hit” or not. It’s an “indie” movie anyway. The overwhelming majority of them do not make a lot of money. Hollywood may pick it up just to spite Christians,
though. :rolleyes:🤷

Just see this as yet another instance of Evil getting its ideas out there and being accepted. Best way to handle this is to warn as many folks as possible away from the movie. And encourage pro-life movies as well.

Also-----just pray. :signofcross::highprayer:
 
marbleartist said:
realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/20/date_night_at_the_abortion_movie_123029.html A romantic comedy movie has been made about an abortion- all very well-reviewed by the usual suspects. We are hitting new moral lows every day in this country. Has anyone else heard of this movie? How can an abortion be considered entertainment, and even worse, a comedy?? Some of the positive reviews also take digs at pro-life Christians. I’ve included a link to the only negative review that I found. So sad.
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I read about this the other day. What kind of perverse mind comes up with this filth? I saw back a month or so ago that some girl supposedly even filmed her abortion and made it look like she was getting her nails done! What the heck is wrong with these people?

I hesitate to assume the demonic, but in these cases, it does make you wonder doesn’t it?
 
This is what I get for thinking the best of people …
marbleartist said:
Losh14, Read the review I posted in the opening post. The movie is a “romantic comedy” about a girl who has an abortion. She doesn’t question or soul search or discuss. She announces during her comedy act that she’s pregnant and getting an abortion the next day - with the father of the child finding out while sitting as an invited member of the comedy show audience.
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sigh I’ll just hug and kiss my daughters tonight and remind them that no matter how much I love them, Jesus loves them more.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
the usccb website reviewed the film.

catholicnews.com/data/movies/14mv071.htm

It really sounds like a dreadfully awful film.
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Many thanks, Mary Gail, for providing this link. I think the USCCB should create a new O category where they could give a movie more than one O because this movie sounds so bad that a single O doesn’t seem to do it justice.

Thanks also to the OP for bringing it to our attention. I have some flaming-liberal friends, one a film buff and fallen-away Catholic, so now I’ll be prepared if this movie is brought up - to change the subject or firmly state that I do not wish to discuss it. That way lies madness.
 
3DOCTORS said:
Thanks also to the OP for bringing it to our attention. I have some flaming-liberal friends, one a film buff and fallen-away Catholic, so now I’ll be prepared if this movie is brought up - to change the subject or firmly state that I do not wish to discuss it. That way lies madness.
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One more thought for your friends (who are quite like mine). Ask them what they would do if they were in that comedy club and the comic happened to sit down next to them. Would they say “Good for you! Taking charge of your reproductive choices like that!” or would they say “Wow, your life is a mess. Do you need to talk?”

One of the things I most regret is that I was unable to talk a friend out of an abortion years ago. I also regret that I was unable to talk her out of a bad relationship with a flaky guy who turned out had a wife and a kid on the side (or rather, my friend was the one on the side), or out of a roommate with a cocaine problem, or out of playing with cocaine, or out of working for a social welfare agency where she slept with her boss and was paid under the table. One day she asked to meet me at a favorite pastry shop, and asked, more or less, for my approval of her having an abortion. I couldn’t give it (strange of her to ask anyway, we never had that kind of relationship, and even so I can’t tell someone “go ahead, kill your ex’s baby”), and our friendship ended over morning muffins. Last I heard, she was married and doing well but unable to have kids.

All you can do is try. The worst you can do is give an okay to something terrible because you don’t think you can change their mind.
 
losh14 said:
One more thought for your friends (who are quite like mine). Ask them what they would do if they were in that comedy club and the comic happened to sit down next to them. Would they say “Good for you! Taking charge of your reproductive choices like that!” or would they say “Wow, your life is a mess. Do you need to talk?”

One of the things I most regret is that I was unable to talk a friend out of an abortion years ago. I also regret that I was unable to talk her out of a bad relationship with a flaky guy who turned out had a wife and a kid on the side (or rather, my friend was the one on the side), or out of a roommate with a cocaine problem, or out of playing with cocaine, or out of working for a social welfare agency where she slept with her boss and was paid under the table. One day she asked to meet me at a favorite pastry shop, and asked, more or less, for my approval of her having an abortion. I couldn’t give it (strange of her to ask anyway, we never had that kind of relationship, and even so I can’t tell someone “go ahead, kill your ex’s baby”), and our friendship ended over morning muffins. Last I heard, she was married and doing well but unable to have kids.

All you can do is try. The worst you can do is give an okay to something terrible because you don’t think you can change their mind.
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The friend in question is well past retirement age, and I’m middle aged myself. If one of, say, my friends’ or cousins’ daughters (or granddaughters) was contemplating abortion, I would indeed try to talk them out of it. That would be a concrete situation. But when it comes to friends who just want to needle me into a pointless debate over hypotheticals, a debate we had many a time and I laid out every pro-life argument I could think of during them, it’s different. The back-and-forth only got me upset and stressed, and wasn’t doing anything to change the other person’s views. At some point one has to say “I’ve done all I can, the rest is in God’s hands.” And leave it be.
 
I concur:
3DOCTORS said:
The back-and-forth only got me upset and stressed, and wasn’t doing anything to change the other person’s views. At some point one has to say “I’ve done all I can, the rest is in God’s hands.” And leave it be.
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The older I get, the less time and patience I have for pure conjecture. Sometimes it’s fun to engage in, sometimes it’s necessary to help form understanding, but really I have a household to run and a faith to live.
 
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