Was getting a little annoyed at what seemed baseless. The whole tone I was trying to set was aborting in relation to poverty. All I was doing was making a few minor corrections, call me what you will, but cynical is not, I’m more practical than that.Just gonna jump in here and say that this thread is supposed to be about the Church’s stance on abortion. Not pity or sympathy on family/friend matters and mental health, unless you are trying to get this thread closed. Although I am very sorry to hear what you had to go through. You will be in my prayers
God Bless,
ChurchSuffering
Jesus did have something to say about that: Luke 7:36-50, when he is anointed with oil by a sinful woman. (Just so long as things are tasteful - and anything that evokes “McMansion” is severely testing taste)Hai there,
Hmm, yeah I’m going to guess that perhaps you have not had to go through some of the life situations Lucy has, nor really understand where she’s coming from. That’s the reason I picked the parish I did so carefully, anytime I see the McMansion look a lot of American Churches have I do a 180 and go the other way. I figure if they spend that much on a building like that their financial priorities are in the wrong place. Think Jesus had something to say about that…
Plus, look at some of the murder cases where pregnant women have been killed, the prosecution ALWAYS charges the offender with 2 counts of murder, so its clear they consider it to be 2 separate people…BUT when it comes to abortion, for some strange reason, the question of whether the unborn baby is actually a person, is still up in the air and up for debate…did I miss something? LOLHow would it not be her choice? She can do what is safe, right, cost-effective, and legal. Or she could do what was hazardous, wrong, expensive, and illegal. Making something illegal does not prohibit our brains from making a choice. People choose to rob, use deadly doses of illegal drugs, murder, and in other illegal ways harm themselves and others. The question still remains, how is an unborn human organism not a person? If it is a person, then it is murder and should be illegal. If it is not, the burden of proof is on you.
The value of human life is contingent on nothing. It is inherent.The whole tone I was trying to set was aborting in relation to poverty.
Eugenics dressed up as altruism. Typical.Heres something I bet not many on CAF know about…I watched a recent dateline, 20/20 type show, (it was one of these 2), and they did a story on certain abortion clinics accepting donations, to pay for abortions for the poor, and the crazy thing is, the people donating can pick and choose which race their money goes towards an abortion for!
I am sorry that this has happened to you. But please be open (if you aren’t already, you might be but I can’t really tell) to why abortion is wrong.Hai there,
Hmm, yeah I’m going to guess that perhaps you have not had to go through some of the life situations Lucy has, nor really understand where she’s coming from. That’s the reason I picked the parish I did so carefully, anytime I see the McMansion look a lot of American Churches have I do a 180 and go the other way. I figure if they spend that much on a building like that their financial priorities are in the wrong place. Think Jesus had something to say about that…
Oh, and you judge! I’m not cynical! Any idea how much effort that is? I tend to keep my mouth shut IRL for a reason, cynical people tend to make enemies and in a society like the USA that does have incredible discrimination thats a great way to ruin your carrier. Old phrase I live by, nail that sticks up gets hammered down. Know more that a few people here would disagree, but considering I’m fending for myself I will continue as I’ve always have to look out for number one until I can live in a place that has more legal protections.
If anything i’m just really apathetic. That takes waaaaay less energy and that time is better invested in someone more valuable, me! Considering I’m trying to heal I think it’s a good way to spend my personal energy, rather than wasting it on needless cynicism and hate. Pathetic waste really. And to be fair I do a pretty good job of keeping bad things out of my head, I had to be my own keeper at an early age. What can I say, after seeing my own mother killed by my father and then having to serve a restraining order on him in addition to all the legal hastle the monster tried to inflict on me I’m quite a bit on edge, hence the outpatient mental care.
Thing is I have to find a reason why I would benefit me. After being treated like an exploitable resource I tend to care little for people in general. If I’m ever in a situation where I’m not as exploitable, have more protections and perhaps people who would treat me as well as themselves great, but until then forget it. I’m trying but I always have and I always will do what is in my best interests no matter what.I am sorry that this has happened to you. But please be open (if you aren’t already, you might be but I can’t really tell) to why abortion is wrong.
That’s that undercover show right? Love that show. Yeah, sounds about right, racism is like alcoholism, a giant elephant in the room that everyone pretends isn’t there.Heres something I bet not many on CAF know about…I watched a recent dateline, 20/20 type show, (it was one of these 2), and they did a story on certain abortion clinics accepting donations, to pay for abortions for the poor, and the crazy thing is, the people donating can pick and choose which race their money goes towards an abortion for!
They had an undercover donor calling in one of these places, and was giving something like $1500. as the operator was going thru everything, he asked if his money could go towards the abortion of a mexican person, started talking about how he felt they were ruining this country, taking all the US jobs, blah blah blah, and the less of them being born, was just fine with him, the operator laughed and joked with him, went along with it, saying of course, we can put your money towards a mexican person.
The story went on to say they apparently get alot of donors who wish to pay for abortions of the black and latino people…crazy, our world has come to this, abortion is evil enough by itself, but this is just ridiculous.
I had never heard such a thing before, but it did make me wonder how often this sort of thing is happening.
ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=abortion&xsubmit=Search&s=SSHi,
I’m curious about The Church’s stance on abortion.
Lots of consideration is given and has been given, to this subject .Does anyone ever take into consideration the poverty a lot of single mothers face once they give birth?
Agreed.Sure, would be nice if they planned things better but many don’t.
Politically speaking, one party in particular, in this country, is obsessed with a pro abortion agenda. They have zero interest in banning abortion…at any stage of pregnancy. I think you know the party I’m speaking of. So to answer your question, you can at least eliminate **that **party in particular from consideration, for working towards banning abortion.Does anyone ever vote for bills/amendments that would give more aid to the poor in addition to banning abortion?
There are NO circumstances (be it poverty, to save the life of the mother, or whatever) that permit a direct abortion.Was getting a little annoyed at what seemed baseless. **The whole tone I was trying to set was aborting in relation to poverty. ** All I was doing was making a few minor corrections, call me what you will, but cynical is not, I’m more practical than that.