Abuse Scandal in Pennsylvania---Nothing Done

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I wish my Church was pretty, but it’s your typical 70’s, semi round church with a lot of brick, some wood, a mosaiac of Mary and Jesus behind the altar and yucky carpeting. We recently got a large statue of St. John Paul II that sits off to the left of the altar, which I also dislike, and wish a large statue of Mary would replace it.
The exterior looks kind of neat, though.
 
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I’m from Missouri and it’s a MAJOR peeve of mine when people say “Missourah” and “Illinoise”.
 
One of the problems was that the statute of limitations changes weren’t going to be across the board. Some types of claims would still have the SOL, but others would nod.
Basically, the lifting of SOL would have affected the RCC and the Boy Scouts , but not other religions and organizations,
 
This, and a so many other things that have happened, it is a very very long leap from these to saying “Nothing Done”.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
there are good reasons for having statutes of limitations
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@tafan2 @Godfollower @Augustinian

The reason is of the order of human rights.

Without STO, if a man committing a crime in his youth (say 1 year prison sentence) he would live in fear for the rest of his life (his career, family, would never know security or peace of mind). That in turn would deny him his fundamental right to live, to redemption and amends. Thus any past mistake would imply a never ending threat to his existence.
 
That is because the Constitution specifically prohibits ex post facto laws.
 
Augustinian said:
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adgloriam:
Back when ordinary man worked 40 hours a week.
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IHOM Church was built in 1905, the 1904 Census of Manufacturing indicated the average manufacturing job was 57 hours a week.
Hours of Work in U.S. History
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Syndicalism -being inseparable from communism- did have a role in improving working conditions. [something globalization is working hard to put away with.] At what hours did commerce close back then? Public employees? Was there anyone working 8 hours per day?
 
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adgloriam:
Back when ordinary man worked 40 hours a week.
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IHOM Church was built in 1905, the 1904 Census of Manufacturing indicated the average manufacturing job was 57 hours a week.
Hours of Work in U.S. History
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Haymarket Square Bombing​

The eight-hour push of 1886 was, in Norman Ware’s words, “a flop” (Ware, 1929). Lack of will and organization among workers was undoubtedly important, but its collapse was aided by violence that marred strikes and political rallies in Chicago and Milwaukee. The 1886 drive for eight-hours literally blew up in organized labor’s face. At Haymarket Square in Chicago an anarchist bomb killed fifteen policemen during an eight-hour rally, and in Milwaukee’s Bay View suburb nine strikers were killed as police tried to disperse roving pickets. The public backlash and fear of revolution damned the eight-hour organizers along with the radicals and dampened the drive toward eight hours — although it is estimated that the strikes of May 1886 shortened the workweek for about 200,000 industrial workers, especially in New York City and Cincinnati.
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The other reasons for stat of lims, besides not wanting people to live under a continuing threat of accusation, is that it becomes more difficult to prosecute cases as time goes by. Evidence becomes less available and witnesses move away or die. The justice system strikes an economic balance between society’s interest in prosecuting the crime, and the costs of doing so. Murder generally has no statute of limitations because it’s the most serious of crimes, so the high costs are justified. Minor crimes might have a limitation of a year or two. Sex offenses tend to have a fairly long statute of limitations as crimes go.
 
Enjoyed the W. PA references. But back to the topic of the thread. Don’t know if anybody has read the article, but the Federal Government through the Department of Justice is going to investigate the scandal highlighted by the PA Attorney General. Doubt they are going after the priests and the victims (as most of them are dead or elderly and the statute of limitations has past). But they are aiming at investigating the bishops and their involvement. And they are looking at employing the RICO statutes, considering the Catholic Church as a Criminal Enterprise and the bishops as “racketeers” involved in a criminal enterprise. This just took a whole different turn than just the PA attorney general looking into it. Stay tuned.
 
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But they are aiming at investigating the bishops and their involvement. And they are looking at employing the RICO statutes, considering the Catholic Church as a Criminal Enterprise and the bishops as “racketeers” involved in a criminal enterprise.
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They could do the same with governments and stock markets. Just sayin…
 
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joeybaggz:
But they are aiming at investigating the bishops and their involvement. And they are looking at employing the RICO statutes, considering the Catholic Church as a Criminal Enterprise and the bishops as “racketeers” involved in a criminal enterprise.
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They could do the same with governments and stock markets. Just sayin…
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True. The RICO statutes were instituted to go after organized crime in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. The way the RICO statutes are constructed, the definition of a criminal organization can be “stretched” to cover an organization like the CC. This could get interesting, and possible very expensive.
 
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