Abusing muhammad?

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Abuse is mistreatment, cruelty and also ill-treatment. May I ask how did they abuse Mohammad? I am sincere in asking so that if it is reasonable then we will not do it again. Can you give an example the abuse of Mohammad here? Please planten, it is no use you’re saying Mohammad has been abused and you have not told us how that was.
With what Reuben has stated here, i would like to know how we have abused mohammed. The things we have brought up about mohammad, are factual and real. I do not see how bringing up the truth is abuse, but if we have ‘abused’ your prophet, please enlighten us. 🙂
 
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With what Reuben has stated here, i would like to know how we have abused mohammed. The things we have brought up about mohammad, are factual and real. I do not see how bringing up the truth is abuse, but if we have ‘abused’ your prophet, please enlighten us. 🙂
I am interested too to know what the abuses are. Planten was to a point of wanting to kill if we continue with the abuse, so obviously he is raving mad about this. I thought if he and us can come to some understanding on how to discuss in the forum without abusing anybody then this forum certainly will be a nice place to live in.

So I too hope planten will list down the abuses that Mohammad suffered so much at the hands of unpeaceful, faulty, sinful, abusive and false religion Catholics (according to the words of planten) here.
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace
… how we have abused mohammed.
Muhammed (peace be upon him ) is respected by billion Muslims in the earth . We don’t expect that Christians will accept him as a Prophet . But condemn our beloved Prophet in nasty / offensive languages , provoking Muslims all the time by claming that he was a child molester , wife beater , killer , liar etc , stil your wonder if you are abusing him or not ?

If u browse Jewish forum , u will see how some participants claim Jesus (peace be upon him) used to bath in river with other men & that is a proof that he was a … ( too dirty to mention ) .

God knows your heart . So , pl. don’t clain that u don’t want to show disrespect to Muhammed (p) .

I know , some Christians will keep writing nasty posts - let them do it . God is watching us & He will be the just ruler on the final day.

To you be your Way, and to me mine. (holy Quran ; 109:6)
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Muhammed (peace be upon him ) is respected by billion Muslims in the earth . We don’t expect that Christians will accept him as a Prophet . But condemn in a nasty / offensive languages , provoking Muslims all the time by claming that he was a child molester , wife beater , killer , liar etc , stil your wonder if you are abusing him or not ?

If u browse Jewish forum , u will see how some participants claim Jesus (peace be upon him) used to bath in river with other men & that is a proof that he was a … ( too dirty to mention ) .

God knows your heart . So , pl. don’t clain that u don’t want to show disrespect to Muhammed (p) .

I know , some Christians will keep writing nasty posts - let them do it . God is watching us & He will be the just ruler on the final day.

To you be your Way, and to me mine. (holy Quran ; 109:6)
Fact 1 muhammed married a 6 year old girl, and consummated the marriage at 9. Do you think having sex with a 9 year old is pedophilia? I think it is, therefore i see him as a child molester.

Fact 2 Aisha spied and followed Muhammad; when Muhammad learned Aisha’s misdeed he hit her (beat her) on her chest that caused much pain to Aisha…4.2127
In this case, did muhammed beat his wife aisha, yes he did, he even caused her great pain. This makes him a wife beater.

Fact 3 Did muhammed spread islam by the sword. yes he did. Too much to cut and paste on this matter however, this makes him a murderer.

As you can see, on the contrary, i have the evidence to support muhammed for what he is, what he did, and how he lived his life. All the accusations i have made are true, which does not mean im abusing muhammed, im merely telling the truth.
Do you still consider telling the truth to be abuse?
 
I’d like to see how he plans to kill through a forum. For more on a frank handling of Islam, read this: amazon.com/Sword-Prophet-History-Theology-Impact/dp/1928653111

The guy has the educational and cultural authority to speak on the matter.
Sorry I am unable to open the site.

I don’t know how he plans to kill through the forum. I suppose if he wants to it would be tracing our addresses and get at us through associates or brothers in the faith. How do they trace hackers then? I know it sound whacky but this kind of killing did happen and we should not under estimate people’s knowledge of the Internet.

The accusation by a Muslim that Mohammad is being abused or scandalized is to be taken seriously, that much I know.
 
The Sword of the Prophet: Islam; History, Theology, Impact on the World, by Serge Trifkovic
 
Muhammed (peace be upon him ) is respected by billion Muslims in the earth . We don’t expect that Christians will accept him as a Prophet . But condemn our beloved Prophet in nasty / offensive languages , provoking Muslims all the time by claming that he was a child molester , wife beater , killer , liar etc , stil your wonder if you are abusing him or not ?
As being mentioned, Mohammad did have sex with a nine year old, beat his wife Aishah, killed a poet and others, taught it is right to lie. How do you describe such a person in today’s language? Do you have code words that mean child molester, wife beater, killer and liar without having to say them, if they are too offensive for you?
If u browse Jewish forum , u will see how some participants claim Jesus (peace be upon him) used to bath in river with other men & that is a proof that he was a … ( too dirty to mention ) .
What is the problem here? If that is documented especially in the Bible, why not? Christians are not afraid of these things because the truth about God cannot be suppressed and denied. We have a saying, “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32. We are not afraid of the truth and if it is not it do not bother us either. I think that’s a true mark of the faith.
God knows your heart . So , pl. don’t clain that u don’t want to show disrespect to Muhammed (p) .
As far as I am concerned I have been very frank on this. I do not believe in Mohammad nor do I think he was a godly person. I do not purposely show disrespect to him, I am always quite careful in choosing my words, but I thought everything should be opened to discussion unless it contravenes the forum’s rule.

However there are some factual truth which is from the Quran and the hadith and being believed by many Muslims themselves. I thought these are fair topics and should be discussed. I think it is only disrespect if stories about Mohammad are being concocted without true facts and sources.

You mentioned about Jesus earlier on but where did they get that information? That would be scandalizing if they simply make up stories that cannot be traced to any reliable sources.
I know , some Christians will keep writing nasty posts - let them do it . God is watching us & He will be the just ruler on the final day.
You are way too sensitive.

I give you a hint – by saying that we associate partners with God, that we worship Mary, that Jesus did not die on the cross, that Jesus is not divine and that the Bible was corrupted, are transgressing the very depth of our sensitivity like a doubled edge sword that strike deep into our very beings that you can ever imagine.

Mohammad was only human to you yet you are very sensitive about what being said about him. Can you imagine when you say the above about Jesus who we consider God? You ‘abuse’ our God. What is it compared to us abusing your prophet? And yet we suffer in silence and take all the blasphemy that Muslim posters spew out here.

I am all for civilized dialogue but this is a game two can play. Stop your garbage about Jesus and Christianity, and perhaps we refrain from speaking the truth about Mohammad.
 
Muslim Woman – don’t bother. The last thing they need is another opportunity to rehash their trash-talk.

For instance, I have explained time and time again that Muhammad never beat any of his wives–and I have an authentic report from his wife 'Aisha.

And yet they lie and say that he even beat Aisha despite her testimony to the contrary!

It’s clear then that they won’t listen to reason.
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace
…It’s clear then that they won’t listen to reason.
Verses from the holy Quran :

Surely (as for) those who disbelieve and act unjustly
Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to a path

Except the path of hell, to abide in it for ever, and this is easy to Allah.

O people! surely the Apostle has come to you with the truth from your Lord, therefore believe, (it shall be) good for you and If you disbelieve, then surely whatever is in the heavens and the earth is Allah’s; and Allah is Knowing, Wise. [4.168-170]

Hadith Of The Day

If you speak of a person behind their back and that evil is not found in them then you are guilty of slander.
 
The Sword of the Prophet: Islam; History, Theology, Impact on the World, by Serge Trifkovic
That’s a good book. I’ve heard Dr. Trifkovic speak - he is intense, prepared and charitable even when describing people (Muslims) who have murdered so many of his friends and ancestors.
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace
… Can you imagine when you say the above about Jesus who we consider God? You ‘abuse’ our God. .
another Christian wrote something like this in other forum & told that it’s the same { what Christians write about Muhammed (p) & what Muslims write about Jesus (p) } .

I told him when Muslims write about Jesus (p) , we do it with love & respect . When Christians write about Muhammed (p) , they do it to show him disrespect . So , it can’t be same.

A person can’t be a Muslim / can’t remain as a Muslim if s/he deos not respect Mother Mary & Jesus (peace be upon them). I told this earlier --some Christians always take this advantage .
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

another Christian wrote something like this in other forum & told that it’s the same { what Christians write about Muhammed (p) & what Muslims write about Jesus (p) } .

I told him when Muslims write about Jesus (p) , we do it with love & respect . When Christians write about Muhammed (p) , they do it to show him disrespect . So , it can’t be same.

A person can’t be a Muslim / can’t remain as a Muslim if s/he deos not respect Mother Mary & Jesus (peace be upon them). I told this earlier --some Christians always take this advantage .
We can love and respect a man and also correct him. In Muhammad’s case, we need to correct his assertion that he is a prophet of God, and his wicked life is a strong point against him. It is not hypocritical to point out Muhammad’s sins and not Jesus’ sins, because Jesus was sinless.
 
It would be one thing to correct him if he were alive, and wrong.

But seeing as how he is neither, it seems a pointless endeavor, no?
 
4:140 Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith - all in Hell:-
 
It would be one thing to correct him if he were alive, and wrong.

But seeing as how he is neither, it seems a pointless endeavor, no?
If Muslims forgot about Muhammad when he died, it would be pointless. But his false teachings and poor example are still around and millions of people subscribe to them. In a non-resurrectory sense, he lives beyond the grave. Thus we must convince Muslims to abandon the false religion he started and put themselves under Jesus Christ, and very many points are at stake.
 
If Muslims forgot about Muhammad when he died, it would be pointless. But his false teachings and poor example are still around and millions of people subscribe to them. In a non-resurrectory sense, he lives beyond the grave. Thus we must convince Muslims to abandon the false religion he started and put themselves under Jesus Christ, and very many points are at stake.
Do you think you are going to uncover something that his followers didn’t notice?
 
Telling the truth is not abusing Muhammed.Here we Always discuss about the faults of Muhammed and Koran.Anyway sister dolphin love thank you for this thread.It will be a helpful thread for every one.
 
Muslim Woman – don’t bother. The last thing they need is another opportunity to rehash their trash-talk.

For instance, I have explained time and time again that Muhammad never beat any of his wives–and I have an authentic report from his wife 'Aisha.

And yet they lie and say that he even beat Aisha despite her testimony to the contrary!

It’s clear then that they won’t listen to reason.
But muhammed permits wife beating.Do you think that it is good manner?
 
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