Cal-
And that, along with the appropiate commentary explaining why those passages were used and why said passages are in error [of the top of my head- worldly pleasures, slavish conditions for the women, unJust double standards for women, etc.] would have been a respectful and truthful response. With no need to use a fake [suprise voice "But wait, what about Muslim women? I guess they will be going…, and a sarcastic Hmmm add on to the end. And if you review other posts by Catholics in the three active Muslims threads you’ll find similar disrespectful, mocking, and other wise belittling comments. Such behavior is not only need, it goes against Church teaching and destroys any chance of real dialouge. One can correct with the need to belittle. One can post one’s objections to Islam and the actions of Muslims without the need to demonize or mock them.
When I came back from Iraq, I called all Muslims Hajiis and had no issue in mocking their beliefs and even laughing at a video in which an insurgent team blew themselves up. After, thankfully reconnecting to my faith, I stopped. Not because I wanted to be touchy feely PC. I stopped because the Chruch, through its teaches, demanded I stop. I then learned why and now do my best to follow its teachings in that regard because I now understand it is the Right thing to do.
A person mocking, belittling, and in general disrepecting a Muslim is harming his/her own relationship with God, and deny the chance for a dialouge in which said person could show the Muslim the errors of his/her faith. Frankly, the massive number of disrepectful posts and posts adopting athiest tactics [cherry picking verses, selective reviews of history, finger pointing game, etc.] over the 3 or 4 active Muslim threads remind me of the massive [athiest vs fundamentalist Christians vs Muslim the only point is to win] threads over at Foxnews. They remind me of those petty back and forth threads because like there, there hasn’t really been any attempts to engage in a respectful dialouge.
We as Catholics are required to maintain the moral high ground, we are required to engage in respectful [and this does not mean the PC version of respectful, nor does it mean we are to deny/hide the Truth] dialouge with Muslims. We are required to do this IOT bring them back into the fold, to bring them closer to the True understanding of God.
Review the 3 or 4 threads, replace Muslim with Catholic, would you be open to a dialouge? Or would you be more willing to engage in a pointless tit for tat non-conversation?
On a different topic-
The women in hell passages indicates to me a flawed Justice in Islam. It is not that the woman wronged God, but that they wronged their husbands. That their reward in Heaven is not based on their relationship with God, but on their relationship with their husbands [who, based on a quick search, are free from being punished when the wrongs are reversed]
Bev,
I’ll take your word you did not intend to mock. I apologize. But, do you see how one could view your first post as mockery? Or how your second post can not be mistaken for it?
On a new topic based on your first post-
-Muslims would only go to that version of Heaven if their version is the True version. It’s not. Their version is part of the error that hinders their ability to fully understand God as we, Catholics, do through our faith. A place of worldly pleasures and worldly concerns sounds more like the pagan Greek and Roman afterlives. Then add in the different levels of heaven, etc.
and Vicki (booklover) and Sam777 xx and others that believe in Jesus