ACLU Launches 'Toolkit' Designed for LGBT Parents

[David_Paul]

ProudParenting.Com
June 1, 2005

The American Civil Liberties Union has launched a new online toolkit designed to provide LGBT parents with what they say is the information they need to protect their relationships with their children. The toolkit can be found online by clicking the parenting section at www.aclu.org/getequal.

“The many state constitutional amendments seeking to ban all types of protections for the families of lesbian and gay couples have people feeling attacked and vulnerable,” Matt Coles, Director of the ACLU’s Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, said in a statement to the press earlier this month. “We’ ve launched this new toolkit to give LGBT parents the tools they need to protect their families and to provide those thinking about raising children with the know-how to negotiate the often confusing laws of parenting.”

The toolkit has information for all types of LGBT families, from LGBT people who have come out after having children in heterosexual relationships, to couples contemplating having or adopting children, to special concerns specific to transgender people.

The site includes information on second parent adoptions, information about adoption and foster parenting, tips on how to avoid mistakes in custody and visitation when going through a heterosexual divorce, as well as links to information about the specific law in each state.

“The laws on LGBT parenting can be intimidating and confusing,” Coles said. “LGBT parents going through a divorce often don’t realize they have rights to custody or visitation with their children. All too often they agree to custody or visitation agreements that prevent them from being able to live with their partners.”

Coles said the toolkit is designed to “arm LGBT parents with the right information so they can avoid agreements like these and other pitfalls.”

The toolkit also talks about stereotypes that have been historically used to deny LGBT people custody and visitation rights to their children and to ban gay people from adoption and foster parenting.

“The last year has seen a spate of attacks against gay people as parents,” said Coles. “These attacks are completely unfounded and go against the recommendations of all of the nation’s legitimate child welfare organizations. Our children deserve better than to be made pawns of anti-gay bigotry.”

 

[jlw]

Is there an ACLU toolkit for heterosexual parents??

 

[Lizzie]

The ACLU also has provided data on your link to prepare us all for transgendered parenting. The ACLU has announced it intends to loosen our antiquated notions of what is a real man or real woman by impact lawsuits and public education.

According to this group, we must become tolerant of such things as daddies who dress up like mommies and achieve fulfillment cruising the parks for anonymous sex.

 

[David_Paul]

Lizzie:

by impact lawsuits and public education.

There it is. Law not used to redress harm but to propagandize.

 

[Lizzie]

David_Paul:

There it is. Law not used to redress harm but to propagandize.

This is the saddest statement. This is the reason that I as a life-long Democrat can no longer vote for my political party. I voted for Clinton twice. His party said we should fight against Republican judges and Republican control of the Supreme Court.

Once I was able to access the internet, I became horrified to see that it was my political party whose judges were creating death, destruction and chaos in my country.

This corrupt judiciary that we are saddled with have created God awful loopholes that easily release predators who prey on innocents.

Common sense and civilian safety has been thrown out the window by ACLU-types who dedicate their efforts to uncementing the glue that protects society.

 

[David_Paul]

Welcome home

 

[Lizzie]

David_Paul:

Welcome home

Thank you!

I still think of myself as a liberal. Isn’t it awful that present day ‘liberals’ preach such terrible degeneracy which destroys the fabric of our individuality and our society?

 

[Matt25]

The point might be that a lesbian who gives birth to a child should not have that child snatched away by federal agents just because she is a lesbian. A mom is a mom whatever her sexual orientation.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

Matt25:

The point might be that a lesbian who gives birth to a child should not have that child snatched away by federal agents just because she is a lesbian. A mom is a mom whatever her sexual orientation.

:ehh: Matt you have deluded yourself they are intent on destroying anything good.

 

[David_Paul]

Matt25:

The point might be that a lesbian who gives birth to a child should not have that child snatched away by federal agents just because she is a lesbian.

Yes we have a terrible, terrible crisis in America . Federal agents are breaking down doors to snatch children away from lesbian mothers. See it everyday where I live.

“Cops” had a special on it last weekend. A Lesbian Mother Task Force Swat Team in Santa Cruz, California raided grocery Co-ops and New Age book stores rounding up Lesbians and their babies. Some of the Lesbians bolted after flash-bang grenades were tossed into their hide outs. In an interesting twist, the Feds used specially trained Daschunds to chase and tree the lesbians mothers. Once tree’ed, the lesbians were shot with Prozac tipped darts causing them to fall into waiting nets.

But where to we put safe guarding Lesbian mothers on the list of ACLU priorities? So many pressing issues the ACLU must address. Such as:

Protecting military bases from Boy Scouts of America meetings.

Demolishing the “Mojave Cross” lest more Veterans memorial spring up in the desert where not one person in 500,000 sees them.

Protecting the right of homosexuals to proselytize in a California High School paper .

Continuing, despite loss after loss, to protect the right of abortionists to abort the babies of 13 year olds without telling the child’s parents.

Asking a Louisiana judge to put Tangipahoa Parish school officials in prison for saying prayers.

Making sure terrorists in Gitmo have Korans in their cells, prayer mats and clean skull caps.

After all, if we don’t protect the religious rights of foreign terrorists who want to murder us, tommorow somebody may try to take away our freedom of religion…

 

[Lizzie]

David_Paul:

Yes we have a terrible, terrible crisis in America . Federal agents are breaking down doors to snatch children away from lesbian mothers. See it everyday where I live.

“Cops” had a special on it last weekend. A Lesbian Mother Task Force Swat Team in Santa Cruz, California raided grocery Co-ops and New Age book stores rounding up Lesbians and their babies. Some of the Lesbians bolted after flash-bang grenades were tossed into their hide outs. In an interesting twist, the Feds used specially trained Daschunds to chase and tree the lesbians mothers. Once tree’ed, the lesbians were shot with Prozac tipped darts causing them to fall into waiting nets.

But where to we put safe guarding Lesbian mothers on the list of ACLU priorities? So many pressing issues the ACLU must address. Such as:

Protecting military bases from Boy Scouts of America meetings.

Demolishing the “Mojave Cross” lest more Veterans memorial spring up in the desert where not one person in 500,000 sees them.

Protecting the right of homosexuals to proselytize in a California High School paper .

Continuing, despite loss after loss, to protect the right of abortionists to abort the babies of 13 year olds without telling the child’s parents.

Asking a Louisiana judge to put Tangipahoa Parish school officials in prison for saying prayers.

Making sure terrorists in Gitmo have Korans in their cells, prayer mats and clean skull caps.

After all, if we don’t protect the religious rights of foreign terrorists who want to murder us, tommorow somebody may try to take away our freedom of religion…

Quite a summary! And it illustrates the peculiar reasoning used by ACLUers.

 

[fix]

Matt25:

The point might be that a lesbian who gives birth to a child should not have that child snatched away by federal agents just because she is a lesbian. A mom is a mom whatever her sexual orientation.

The teaches that homosexual couples should never raise children in such an environment. I, personally, think these children should be removed.

 

[TPJCatholic]

Surrogate mothering and adoption by gay couples should be made illegal. Once a women is pregnant we have no right to take her child. We need to stop this stuff before it happens.

 

[fix]

TPJCatholic:

Surrogate mothering and adoption by gay couples should be made illegal. Once a women is pregnant we have no right to take her child. We need to stop this stuff before it happens.

We should be clear about this. Do you think so-called “gay” parents should be allowed to raise children? Even if they have custody now should they be allowed to maintain custody? I say it is a grave violation of the children’s rights to be in such an environment.

 

[soulspeak23]

so it would be better to take the child from the only mother he’s ever known and throw him into our nations crumbling foster care system? So what about alcoholic, drug-addicted straight mothers? They should be allowed to keep thier children in that kind of environment? I agree with the above statement that a mother is a mother, no matter what. In the eyes of that child, he could care less what his mothers sexual preference is. Yanking these children out of their homes is an outrageous idea.

 

[fix]

soulspeak23:

so it would be better to take the child from the only mother he’s ever known and throw him into our nations crumbling foster care system? So what about alcoholic, drug-addicted straight mothers? They should be allowed to keep thier children in that kind of environment? I agree with the above statement that a mother is a mother, no matter what. In the eyes of that child, he could care less what his mothers sexual preference is. Yanking these children out of their homes is an outrageous idea.

I was speaking of adoptive parents. You bring up a false choice anyway. It is not about homosexual adoption or placing in a bad home.

As for drug users and such, yes, they are routinely removed now.

 

[David_Paul]

soulspeak23:

In the eyes of that child, he could care less what his mothers sexual preference is. Yanking these children out of their homes is an outrageous idea.

One poster claimed children are taken away from lesbian mothers just because they are lesbians, the ACLU hints that may be the case, and all of a sudden it is a fact.

I don’t believe it is. I want someone to show me one case where that was the only factor. Don’t even see how anyone would know a mother was a lesbian or not.

 

[TPJCatholic]

fix,

No, I think gays should not be allowed to have children or adopt them. I see your point…hmm…I place myself in a bit of a corner.

 

[fix]

TPJCatholic:

fix,

No, I think gays should not be allowed to have children or adopt them. I see your point…hmm…I place myself in a bit of a corner.

See the ACLU knows their are folks like me who want all this perverted nonsense to stop. The children are suffering and will continue to suffer if we allow all manner of unnantural situations to exist that have the care of children.

 

[marcadam]

David_Paul:

Yes we have a terrible, terrible crisis in America . Federal agents are breaking down doors to snatch children away from lesbian mothers. See it everyday where I live.

“Cops” had a special on it last weekend. A Lesbian Mother Task Force Swat Team in Santa Cruz, California raided grocery Co-ops and New Age book stores rounding up Lesbians and their babies. Some of the Lesbians bolted after flash-bang grenades were tossed into their hide outs. In an interesting twist, the Feds used specially trained Daschunds to chase and tree the lesbians mothers. Once tree’ed, the lesbians were shot with Prozac tipped darts causing them to fall into waiting nets.

I hear that driving a Subaru with a rainbow sticker is probable cause for the police to pull you over and demand documents identifying your sexual orientation. And children present are put immediately into the custody of the state.