OH, now I understand what you meant! Sorry, I’m a little slow.
I was in an important meeting for work.
May I respectfully point out that most of the above which excludes Cain and Able is a common speculation that has nearly nothing to do with the important Catholic doctrines of Adam and Eve
I am presently agnostic, but I grew up in a Protestant parsonage, and we were openly taught that there were other “non-chosen” persons outside of Eden (as well as other plant life and animals). We were taught that the story of Adam and Eve was non-literal in terms of its biology and genesis of the actual human race. This resolved the clear illogical inconsistencies, and it still left plenty of room for the idea of human sin (original in our nature, not in a specific event) and the redemptive power of Jesus.OK, I was just putting forth speculations; I was not trying to suggest any kind of facts. However, where did all the people come from that Cain was afraid of that would kill him and that God had to put a mark on his forehead so that these people would not kill him? Where did the people in the land of Nod where Cain found a wife come from? Why would Cain found or build a city if it was just him? With these kinds of questions, I was just speculating on how Adam and Eve existed separate from everyone else. When I read Genesis, I get the impression that there existed many people apart from the Garden of Eden. In the end, it is just my speculation and my opinions. Peace
Hello Grannymh
Please tell me.
Please tell me, since St. Augustine along with St. Thomas Aquinas, St. John Chrysostom, St. John Damascence, St. Leo the Great, Pius IX, John Paul II plus Church Councils, Genesis,
Those laws were specific to that period of history. Notice that Abraham married his half-sister, Sarah, and there is nothing to indicate that they sinned in so doing - indeed, rather, they were blessed.
What evidence do you have for this claim that “the human genome is degenerating”? Do you even know to what degree we understand the human genome?
Point is that there are two terms in scripture that most people glean over and they're the "Lord" and "God". And all though they are one and the same. There are distinction to be made. Understanding these distinctions create context and generate perspective when studing scripture. The catholic church is a master at saying the truth without telling it. Milk and meat.. The why's of God...I do.
Because it has symbolic things in it as well, it is not meant to be taken literally the entire way.
It’s an age old debate that I grow ever so tired of, so I will leave it alone in this thread I started. Thanks for responding, I want to simply see what others believe, and I got myself roped into actually replying to things I see as error.
Mainly wanted to know what the Catholics here believed. I was pretty sure that most non-Catholic Christians held firm that there was a dude with a name tag saying Adam on it.
Just like Jonah got swallowed by that whale.
Being Jewish, that is understandable. However, I am interested in what your belief is regarding Adam and Eve.
When you refer to ‘saving the human soul’, are you meaning the crucifixion of Jesus (His suffering both of the trials and actual crucifixion) and of His resurrection? If so, I’d agree.
I agree, for whatever it’s worth.
The rules that govern matter, or “the laws of nature” are the consequences of the properties of matter/energy itself. When God creates matter, space and time (and the resulting emergent laws of nature) are neccesarily created at the same time. Time and space are both consequences of matter. Laws of nature or “rules” are the emergent properties of the “stuff” of material creation.
Each generation is subject to more genetic diseases.