ADL Criticizes Jerusalem Cleric Over Pre-Christmas Speech Opposing Jewish State

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Jerusalem, December 20, 2007… The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said it is deeply disturbed by a pre-Christmas address from the top Roman Catholic cleric in the Holy Land in which he rejected Israel as a Jewish state.
Latin Patriarch Michel Sabbah, a Palestinian, told reporters that “if there’s a state of one religion, other religions are naturally discriminated against.”
In his Christmas 2007 message, Sabbah said: …“A state that would exclude or discriminate against the other religions is not suitable for this land made holy by God for all humanity.”

Abraham Foxman is at it again. Sabbah never said Israel didn’t have the right to exist. I bet Sabbah’s conversion must have really touched a nerve with the ADL.
 
As much as the ADL seriously, seriously bothers me, Israel was founded as a Jewish state and to deny that is revising history. It is not Palestine, it is Israel. While all religions are granted freedom, it was founded as a Jewish state, just in the way the Vatican is in a sense aCatholic state.
 
I read that 80% of those that live in the holyland are non Jews. Of the 20% that are Jews the majority are secular non-religious Jews. I’m not sure if this information is correct or not. It does make one think long and hard about the people of this region. The ADL is mostly a secular organization just as most of the other legal “rights” groups are.

Of the religious there it seems that they are all very devout and truly believe what they teach. This can sometimes cause tensions between the groups. Yet they seem able to live together better then the seculars IMHO.
 
KathleenElsie said:
I read that 80% of those that live in the holyland are non Jews. Of the 20% that are Jews the majority are secular non-religious Jews. I’m not sure if this information is correct or not. It does make one think long and hard about the people of this region. The ADL is mostly a secular organization just as most of the other legal “rights” groups are.

Of the religious there it seems that they are all very devout and truly believe what they teach. This can sometimes cause tensions between the groups. Yet they seem able to live together better then the seculars IMHO.
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I think you have your percentages reversed. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Only about 5% are non-Jewish non-Arab citizens. The 75% remaining are a mix of observant and non-observant Jews. One of the big cultural changes in Israel now is the large growth in the number of observant Jews. This originally had been credited/blamed (take your pick) on the high birth rates of the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews; however, recent studies indicate that the growth in observant Jews is mostly due to the fact that previously secularized non-observant Jews are becoming observant (practicing) Jews.

(There’s also growing concern over the growth in the number of Messianic Jews in Israel. Do they really count as Jews,etc.)

Sha-alu Shalom Yirushalayim
 
KathleenElsie said:
I read that 80% of those that live in the holyland are non Jews. Of the 20% that are Jews the majority are secular non-religious Jews. I’m not sure if this information is correct or not. It does make one think long and hard about the people of this region. The ADL is mostly a secular organization just as most of the other legal “rights” groups are.

Of the religious there it seems that they are all very devout and truly believe what they teach. This can sometimes cause tensions between the groups. Yet they seem able to live together better then the seculars IMHO.
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Today the country’s population is comprised of 76.2 percent Jews, 16.4 percent Muslims, 2.1 percent Christians (mostly Arabs), 1.6 percent Druze and 3.7 percent not classified by religion.mfa.gov.il/
 
wifeandmomoftwo said:
Today the country’s population is comprised of 76.2 percent Jews, 16.4 percent Muslims, 2.1 percent Christians (mostly Arabs), 1.6 percent Druze and 3.7 percent not classified by religion.mfa.gov.il/
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Yes if you take Jewishness as being of that ethnic lineage. The article I read was about those that practice the religion of Judaism.

The point of the information I read was not the ethnic breakdown. The point was the practice of cocsistant religious observances.

The USA is said to be Christian. Most of us will say we are Christians. Yet the vest majority of us do not observe the religious practices we claim to hold.🤷
 
Abe Foxman has certainly spoken with a “forked tongue” before but the Patriarch shouldn’t have said what he said.
 
The ADL are racist Jewish-supremacists. Foxman has claimed that the Armenian genocide never happened and he has essentially denied the deaths of gentiles in the holocaust.

The ADL and the KKK have a lot more in common than either group thinks. Both are hateful genocide deniers.
 
RomanCrusader said:
Bones, I’ve showed you the two ADL articles before. But I’ll dig them up again if you want.
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Wasn’t Abe Foxman (ADL) the force that tried to stop the viewing of the movie “The Passion of the Christ” here in America?

Foxman and his censorship knows no bounds…it is worldwide. :knight1:
 
Francine_Peters said:
Jews converting to other religions lose their right to citizenship under the Law of Return
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However, that doesn’t apply to native-born Israeli Jews who convert (i.e., they are not stripped of citizenship); and that still leaves the question: are Messianic Jews, who still practice the rituals of Judaism, but believe that the Messiah has arrived in the person of Jesus Christ, still to be considered Jews?
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Muzhik said:
However, that doesn’t apply to native-born Israeli Jews who convert (i.e., they are not stripped of citizenship); and that still leaves the question: are Messianic Jews, who still practice the rituals of Judaism, but believe that the Messiah has arrived in the person of Jesus Christ, still to be considered Jews?
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St. Paul seemed to clear up “Jew” and “Gentile” in his ministries. We are all one in Christ was his commonmost theme but he still acknowledged Christianity has a cultural differential as Jews and as gentiles. There is a union in Christ and yet still a diverse identity such as ethnicity.

I read recently on a site (do not have a link-so, allow me to indulge) whereby a leading Rabbi in Jerusalem died in 2005 at the age of 100+. He has a surviving son in his 80’s who is also a rabbi.

The elder left a sealed message to be opened after his death. So, the message was opened and read after a two-year hiatus.

The sealed message was brief and the Rabbi wrote that “Jesus is the Messiah.” The son, did not accept the note and denied its authenticity. Just a sidenote that might be of interest.

To my personal senses, at least, it seems that the world is growing more vociferous against Our Savior and yet, at the same time, Jesus is more ferverently embraced than ever albeit by a shrinking flock. Just one man’s personal observation. Just an outlook. :knight1:
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I’m getting sick of the ADL. They don’t care about abortion and are offended and demand apologies every time someone uses the word “holocaust” to refer to abortion. They have a “Bearing Witness” program to “educate” Catholic teachers on the “Church’s role in the Holocaust”. They continually take people’s words out of context.

In Christ,
Rand
 
Rand_Al_Thor said:
I’m getting sick of the ADL. They don’t care about abortion and are offended and demand apologies every time someone uses the word “holocaust” to refer to abortion. They have a “Bearing Witness” program to “educate” Catholic teachers on the “Church’s role in the Holocaust”. They continually take people’s words out of context.

In Christ,
Rand
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The ADL actually SUPPORTS abortion:

adl.org/PresRele/SupremeCourt_33/5024_32.htm

***ADL Disappointed With Supreme Court Ruling On Partial Birth Abortion Act *

New York, NY, April 19, 2007 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) issued the following statement expressing its disappointment at the Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the federal Partial Birth Abortion Act:

We are deeply troubled by the ramifications of the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. By upholding, for the first time, an abortion statute which contains no exception for the health of the woman, the Supreme Court has undermined a woman’s right to choose and to act in accordance with her conscience and the dictates of her faith.

We continue to believe that Americans should have the freedom to make difficult decisions of conscience and health without government interference.**
 
Some more pro-abortion gems from the ADL:

adl.org/PresRele/supremecourt_33/3638_33.asp

ADL, along with 53 other organizations, filed an amicus curiae or “friend of the court” brief which said the Nebraska law (banning partial-birth abortion) unconstitutionally interfered in matters of individual choice and religious significance and impermissibly advocated certain beliefs over others.

adl.org/PresRele/CvlRt_32/4381_32.htm

*The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) criticized today’s approval by the U.S. Senate of legislation which would curtail women’s constitutional right to make their own reproductive choices. The bill criminalizing the midterm dilation and extraction procedure – misleadingly referred to as “partial-birth abortion” – was approved by the House in June. President Bush has announced his intention to sign the measure into law.

"This legislation wrongly intrudes on an individual’s most personal decisions. The government should not interfere in matters of individual conscience," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. “This measure imposes an unconstitutional burden on individual privacy and religious liberty. In a country of varied religious and personal beliefs, the Constitution clearly mandates that the government should not pick sides and impose one view on all citizens.”*

ADL creeps!

What if I don’t want MY tax money going towards killing innocent babies? What if I don’t want MY tax money funding the Israeli war machine that kills thousands of civilians? The ADL sure have no problem trampling my conscience!
 
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