Adoption or Tubal Reversal?

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Last year, before I became a Catholic, I had my tubes tied after my third child was born. My husband and I both want to reverse the procedure, but we also want to adopt a child. We can’t afford to do both, and there are benefits to both. I have always wanted to adopt a little girl from China, but I also understand the importance of reversing the sterilization. What should we do? I’d just like to know some of your opinions and get some advice about the situation.

Thanks for your help everyone.

Scout :hmmm:
 
This is a very difficult decision to vote on. Did you ask the advice of a good priest?

The tubal reversal of course sounds like the ideal, but I have seen some people do this and several of them had tubal pregnancies and that was it for them.
But it seems like a priest may give the church teaching and suggest reversal. I have heard there are good Christian Doctors who have done this procedure at a low cost, and one of my friends years ago found one who did the procedure for free. She had to pay her hospital fee.
Adoption, are you talking about an infant, or will any child do?
Because if you are going to wait for an infant and all the expenses that go with that, you might be waiting for a while.
So maybe you could go for a reversal, and find a Catholic agency on adoption, throw all your irons out there and let God work with the rest.
Work like it all depended on you, but pray like all depended on God!
 
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Scout:
Last year, before I became a Catholic, I had my tubes tied after my third child was born. My husband and I both want to reverse the procedure, but we also want to adopt a child.
Adopt. Avoid the surgery. All surgery entails risks, and there is no compelling reason why you must have the reversal.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
I concur with Mark. The only to keep you from adopting is believing a biological child is superior than an adopted child.

I can compare – I haven’t been in that situation. I can say that adoption is such a good and generous act for the benefit of a child who has been spared from abortion.

When teenagers think it is better to abort than place a baby for adoption – we really need to show our love in a way that has us accepting and loving that child.
 
I also concur with Mark. Reversing a tube-tying is not a simple surgery.

I suggest (if not already done) go to confession for the surgery and then adopt. There are many children that deserve a good home.
 
I agree with several other posters: tubal reversal is not always possible. I understand that it’s not required of you after conversion; but of course you’ll check with a priest.
I have two birthchildren and two adopted children, and find no difference in my love for them. (the two I had first are older, and out on their own.) If you gave birth to a child and adopted one at the same time, you run into the very difficult situation of the children comparing how they joined your family. Children always feel like the other kids are being favored anyway, and it would be intensified in that case.
Since you’ve had a sterilization, you can now say that you wanted more children so you adopted more. Makes perfect sense, and nobody’s feelings are hurt.
Also, if you adopted domestically, you could receive an adoption subsidy from the state, which would help with finances. It’s a good idea since adoption can run into money for various reasons – unforeseen medical expenses for example.
I pray God will guide you in your desire to give a home to children.
 
As a adoptive parant, I can state that it is the same feeling of parenthood then with a Biological. Maybe even better for that matter, I have a very strong bond with my Son. I think its a point of me actually having to take a verbal adn written oath to God and Country that this is my child, with a biological child you do not have to take that oath.
 
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Jermosh:
As a adoptive parant, I can state that it is the same feeling of parenthood then with a Biological. Maybe even better for that matter, I have a very strong bond with my Son. I think its a point of me actually having to take a verbal adn written oath to God and Country that this is my child, with a biological child you do not have to take that oath.
Thank you so much for adding your point of view. Not being a bio and adoptive parent, I could only guess go by what others told me.

There is something about making the decision to add a member to one’s family and involving half the free world in the process. Most people have a chance to keep it private – wow, what a concept.

The whole process is not always easy, but when we keep the child’s best interest at the core of our attitudes, it is all so much easier.

Sincerely, I thank you for adding the validation I couldn’t
 
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Mamamull:
Thank you so much for adding your point of view. Not being a bio and adoptive parent, I could only guess go by what others told me.

There is something about making the decision to add a member to one’s family and involving half the free world in the process. Most people have a chance to keep it private – wow, what a concept.

The whole process is not always easy, but when we keep the child’s best interest at the core of our attitudes, it is all so much easier.

Sincerely, I thank you for adding the validation I couldn’t
I wanted to add to this one of my corney political adders. Granted Bush really has not did a whole lot for the anti-abortion agenda, the partial birth bill is just stuck in the courts and not doing anything.

But his work on making the Adoption process better is his greatest pro-life action he has done yet. There is more money for Tax Credits to offset the high price of adoption and he cut allot of red tape in the process. People will be able to offer higher finding rewards when looking for a baby, and it might actually sway a girls thought of having a abortion and give it up for adoption if there is more money in in. Granted it sounds grave but if it saves a child oh well.
 
Thanks for the responses, everyone. I really appreciate all the support and advice.

My husband and I are still trying to decide what to do-but while we pray and think about it, we’re saving up our money and weighing our options. Personally, I think I’d rather do the adoption. I keep picturing a little girl in China waiting for someone to come and take her home, and she just keeps watching all the smaller children get adopted first. I’ve always wanted to adopt an older child because I know those are the children that usually get left behind-people usually want infants. But I think it would be wonderful to adopt an older child and give them a warm and loving home. I have a special place in my heart for girls from China because girls are usually not wanted there and a lot of them do wind up in orphanages.

Scout :blessyou:
 
Scout, if you guys are open to domestic adoptions, there are thousands of older children looking for homes right here. Many states and several national adoption services have photolistings and brief biographies of waiting children. You can go to a site like adoptuskids.org and look though the children. You can have an active role in finding the perfect child (or children!) for your family. There’s so many on there that I just want to take home right away and give them the love that they deserve!
 
A reversal of a tubal is not garunteed~finally people who adopt are SAINTS, in my book. The reason being they are not obsessed with “THEIR” genes. They realize a child is a blessing, even IF, it does not have THEIR gene pool.
 
Almeria,

Thanks for the link. I’ll check it out and talk it over some more with my husband. I just know I want to adopt a child. I think it stems from my own childhood and being shipped around quite a bit from one family member to the next, and from one group home to another. I knew who my family was and who my parents were, but my father was unfit to raise me and my mother didn’t want the responsability. I moved eight times between the ages of twelve and sixteen! I just hate thinking about that kind of a lifestyle for another child, not if I can do something about it.

Everyone here has been very helpful and supportive. I really appreciate all your advice and council.
Scout :tiphat:
 
Just to clarify. The church does not teach reversal. They teach to not have done the tubal to begin with. Of course you weren’t catholic at the time, so you wren’t bound to catholic teaching. I would still talk to a priest about the possibility of a needed confession and then move on.

Surgeries of this kind are not always guaranteed and have risks. There are lots of children out there in need of a home. With that in mind I definately vote for adoption!
 
Hello,

We are in a similar situation although in our case it was my husband who had the sterilization. At the time I wasn’t seriously practicing my faith and didn’t think I would ever want more kids.

Big OOPS!

We decided to adopt, mostly because I felt that it would be great to be able to give a child a home who might not otherwise have one. If we had the money to do both, I’d love to do both, but that wasn’t realistic. I’m still open to it happening, but honestly I’m more enthusiastic about another adoption for the same reasons.

As for us, we have confessed and the intent is not there, we are definitely open to life. I sure wouldn’t mind a little miracle either!

Nicole
 
Adopt.

I myself am in the same situation…when I was 20 I had a vasectomy…my Wife was working as an enroute ATC for the FAA, and didn’t feel that she’d have the time for children. We were both young and stupid. She was a Baptist, and I a fallen away Catholic (I’ve since discovered my faith…if only I’d actually paid any attention in CCD…)

Anyway, there are too many children out there that need homes, especially older kids. We’re trying to save up so we can try and adopt a pair of older (3-6) girls (hopefully…), but we’d be happy with any sibling group we could get (prefer not to take infants, those are more easily adopted out…)…

As a suggestion, I’'ve found the ‘Adoption Stories’ show on the Discovery Health channel to be very informative…

Good Luck!
 
RichT,

I have spoken with my priest. It was part of my First Confession before Confirmation. I don’t feel like the sin is hanging over my head, but I am just reminded of the mistake I made every month when I get my cycle.

I know the Church doesn’t require that it be reversed, but I think it would be a good idea-if possible. I kind of see it at an issue like loosing weight. Say a person overeats a lot and gains a lot of weight before becoming a Catholic. Now, after they’ve converted they know that gluttony’s a sin. The Church isn’t going to require them to loose weight, but it would be a great idea if they did.

Maybe that’s a poor analogy, but it’s the best I can do. I know weight loss isn’t in the same universe as sterilization, but I’m hoping you get the point I’m trying to make.

Scout :tiphat:
 
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RichT,

I have spoken with my priest. It was part of my First Confession before Confirmation. I don’t feel like the sin is hanging over my head, but I am just reminded of the mistake I made every month when I get my cycle.

I know the Church doesn’t require that it be reversed, but I think it would be a good idea-if possible. I kind of see it at an issue like loosing weight. Say a person overeats a lot and gains a lot of weight before becoming a Catholic. Now, after they’ve converted they know that gluttony’s a sin. The Church isn’t going to require them to loose weight, but it would be a great idea if they did.

Maybe that’s a poor analogy, but it’s the best I can do. I know weight loss isn’t in the same universe as sterilization, but I’m hoping you get the point I’m trying to make.

Scout :tiphat:
Trust me, I get the point. I underwent a vascetomy that I regret terribly. I have gone to confession, but still think about the possibilty of a reversal. My regrets don’t stem from wanting more children, they come from other issues. I have a lot of mixed feelings about having a reversal, like is the cost and pain worth it when the success rate isn’t 100%?

Anyway, you sound as though you have really thought about this. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t feeling obligated based on the church’s view of sterilization. It is different if this is something you really feel you need to do. Please keep considering adoption, however, there are a lot of children out there who need parents like you who will care for them. My wife and I have talked about adopting when our little ones aren’t as little.
 
I just wanted to share my story with you. I have been Catholic all my life, but until this last year, I haven’t been a very good one. I married my first husband very young (we were high school sweethearts) and together we had three children. The marriage was not a good one and brought many hardships and tears to us both. Neither of us were very good to the other and religion was not a part of our lives or our relationship, although my family and my ex-husbands family are both somewhat religious.
After my third child, who happened to be unplanned (and a very difficult and scary pregnancy) was born we made the decision to get a tubal ligation. In my heart, I knew that my marriage would not last much longer and I did not want to chance another difficult pregnancy and/or end up raising 3 kids by myself.
Within a day of having the procedure done, I felt remorse and regret. I felt ashamed of myself and selfish and I didn’t understand why. My mother-in-law thought I was acting crazy because she thought the reversal was the right thing to do and my ex-husband felt the same way and voiced his opinions daily. Eventually the marriage ended and even though I was no longer married, and didn’t think I would get married again, the shame and remorse were still there.
Two years ago, I met and fell in love with the man I intend to spend the rest of my life with. After meeting Tim, and falling in love with him, I felt as if I was given a gift from God. I finally had someone who loved me completely, and encouraged me to be a better person and lead a better life. Tim and I soon got married and I started to get back into my religion and began doing my best to be a good mother, a good wife, and a good person in general. I started annullment proceedings through the archdiocese so that we could be married in the church, and have our union blessed, the way it should be. As a family, we began attending church regularly, and it felt so good.
Tim was not a Catholic when we met but he received the sacraments last year at the Easter Vigil mass and has rarely missed a Sunday service since then. He encourages my faith and that of my children, and it pains him as much as it pains me that we can not have more children together. I now see that fertility is a gift, not a burden, and I cannot tell you how much I regret my selfish decision of 6 years ago. It weighs on my heart daily, and I can’t help feeling that I somehow deserve this pain because of what I did to my body, my life, and the life of my husband. I heard one day at church that God answers all prayers, but that you have to have faith that your prayers will be answered instead of just speaking the words. Maybe that is my problem, not my faith in God, but my faith in myself, and in whether or not I deserve a second chance at fertility and motherhood. I have many regrets, and I would encourage any woman considering a tubal ligation to look inside herself first, even if her situation seems hopeless. There is always another way, and reversals are not always an option. I spoke to a Doctor who performs reversals, but the procedure will cost $6200, and insurance companies will not help with the costs. Tubal ligation is, in my experience, a bad decision, and a painful one that is sometimes impossible to reverse. I hope if anyone who is thinking about having one sees this letter, that they will re-think that decision, because the pain doesn’t subside, it only gets worse as time goes on. Thank you for listening to my story.
M.B.
 
Surgeries of this kind are not always guaranteed and have risks. There are lots of children out there in need of a home. With that in mind I definitely vote for adoption!
I couldn’t have said it better… I agree…
 
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