Adoration of Communion Wafers...

[jrabs]

chrisb:

. I didn’t get any real answers but I just wanted people to know that I am open for God to reveal whatever truth he is willing to give.

Good for you! Give God time and let Him work in your heart. I like your openness. God can with with an open heart.

 

[jmm08]

chrisb:

Does anyone understand what I am saying here?

Peace, Love and Blessings,

I agree with mercygate

mercygate:

I observe, even in your reservations, a profound respect for the Sacrament as Catholics understand it. You are already more than half way there. Don’t rush it. Let the Boss take his time with you.

I agree with StJeanneDArc:

StJeanneDArc:

Your intellect can lead you to belief–on the other hand feelings are often unreliable.

I agree with Timidity:

Timidity:

I wish you much peace on your spiritual journey, and I am glad that you are actively trying to understand rather than just following along.

Most things take some time to learn. To sum up my thinking argument: if Eucharistic Adoration was only empty idolatry, then those who practice it should never be shining examples of bearing the Fruit of the Holy Spirit. We can never succeed by looking at poor examples to follow. It is always best to look for the best examples to follow.

Fulton Sheen wrote such wonderful books and shows such depth of spiritual knowledge, including practical knowledge that seemed to work for me. Fulton Sheen always made it a point to respond that his spiritual strength came from daily Eucharistic Adoration. That is how I came to intellectually accept it. If Fulton Sheen lied about that, how could he be so spiritual? And if he did not lie about it, then he told the truth and Eucharistic Adoration was a mighty source of strength in his life.

Having concluded that Eucharistic Adoration was a good thing, I must admit that it may seem rather uncomfortable at first (and it was a few weeks before I did). But I just did it anyway. And it did not take very long for me to be quite inspired by it. It often exceeds my expectations.

So give it time. And as a suggestion, ask your RCIA sponsor (or an RCIA leader) to help you with it if you are ready to try it some time.

I’m glad you tried to pray the rosary on your own. I don’t have all the prayers memorized. But I pray it on my own just saying the “Our Fathers”, the “Hail Marys” and the “Glory Be”. And skip what I don’t know. I don’t have the mysteries memorized yet either. I have come to love my rosary quite a lot because it means so much to me at this time.

This morning, I had an extremely bad pain in my ankle (probably a reaction to a new statin drug my doctor prescribed). I took a few aspirin and it helped some – but I was still unable to walk. I played a CD of Pope John Paul II praying the rosary and other prayers. By the end of the CD (half an hour later), the pain went way down. Much more than what the aspirin would have done. Aside from that, praying the Rosary (hearing the Pope’s CD) is so comforting. I like to praying the rosary in Church before mass if the church does it.

I am still quite new myself, so I don’t have so much experience.

 

[memnoch_lover]

chrisb:

In nomine Jesu I offer you all peace,

I have been engage in RCIA this year for eventual reconcilation with the Catholic Church this Easter Vigil but I am experiencing some concerns that are troubling me.

I recently learned about perpetual adoration of the Communion Wafers and to be honest this scares me a bit. It strikes me a bit of Idolatry. Could anyone explain this and tell me if this is something that I must accept to be Catholic?

Peace, Love and Blessings,

answer,

jesus is God incarnate as such jesus is worthy of worship.
at the last supper jesus made a miracle by changing the bread and wine into his body and blood , jesus said this is my body…this is my blood.
Therefore, if jesus as God incarnate is worthy of worship, why not his body and blood in the form of bread and wine… since jesus said this is MY body…MY blood… they must be thesame jesus

 

[Katholikos]

Following the Protestant Revolt and the announcement of Luther’s new doctrine of the Eucharist that has been termed “consubstantiation” (but not by him) – the doctrine that Christ’s true body and blood exist “in, with, and under the visible means (elements)” of bread and wine – the floodgates were opened. Christopher Rasperger wrote a whole book documenting some 200 different interpretations of Christ’s words: “This is my body” that had developed in only the 60 years between 1517 and 1577 (“Ducentæ verborum, ‘Hoc est corpus meum’ interpretationes” Ingolstadt, 1577).

There is the teaching of the Church founded by Christ for the salvation of the world and instructed by His Apostles – or there is chaos.

Reference:

newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm

Jay Damien

 

[Katholikos]

Following the Protestant Revolt and the announcement of Luther’s new doctrine of the Eucharist that has been termed “consubstantiation” (but not by him) – the doctrine that Christ’s true body and blood exist “in, with, and under the visible means (elements)” of bread and wine – the floodgates were opened. Christopher Rasperger wrote a whole book documenting some 200 different interpretations of Christ’s words: “This is my body” that had developed in only the 60 years between 1517 and 1577 (“Ducentæ verborum, ‘Hoc est corpus meum’ interpretationes” Ingolstadt, 1577).

There is the teaching of the Church founded by Christ for the salvation of the world and instructed by His Apostles – or there is chaos.

Reference:

newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm

Jay Damien

 

[puzzleannie]

for some of those I work with in RCIA, even those who are Christians of other denominations, the root of the difficulty in accepting Jesus fully present in the Eucharist, and adoration of Him under the appearnance of bread and wine, is not the issue of the Real Presence per se. they have no difficulty accepting that in a mysterious way we cannot fully understand He is truly present. The actual difficulty, and it arises even among Catholics, especially youth, is the belief that Jesus is truly God, second person of blessed Trinity, and the entire concept of the Triune nature of God.

If Jesus appeared in his risen glorified body (not a statue) living and breathing in the sanctuary during the consecration, would you have difficulty worshipping and adoring him? Many Christians would, in spite of belief they profess, because they have not fully assented, emotionally and intellectually, to belief that Jesus is truly God.

This topic was probably covered near the beginning of your RCIA course, perhaps before everybody was “in the groove” and it might be a good time to go over with your catechist, deacon, sponsor or someone reliable this entire teaching on the first part of the Nicene Creed. It is of course the first section of the Catechism. I suggest careful, slow reading and meditation on this section of the catechism for a while.

There is no law that says you go to RCIA class for a number of months, celebrate some of the minor rights, zip through the catechumenate and the entire class enters the Church this Easter. The process can take years, as it should if you still have grave doubts about core doctrinal issues, and the Eucharist is core, not peripheral. It takes as long as it takes. Ask the Holy Spirit for guidance and to be your teacher. Love you and praying for you and all in your class.

 

[itsjustdave1988]

fellicia:

Is it essentiall for us to do this ‘Eucharist Adoration’?

You are bound to genuflect before the tabernacle and bow before receiving the Eucharist. This IS adoration, just in case you didn’t know.

You are certainly encouraged to adore the Eucharist at other times, but outside the Holy Mass or when passing in front of the Tabernacle, I don’t believe it is a binding devotion.