By your logic, an individual would have to confess any and all sins to their spouse after confessing them to a priest, or be guilty of another sin of “omission”. That, however, was not part of the Balitmore Catechism, nor any manual of which I am aware; is this some new moral theological rule?
Not true at all. My logic is simply that nobody has the right to blame the sacraments for their sinful behavior. The implication of Thistle’s words was that if a person doesn’t want to be responsible for their bad behavior - they can duck responsibility by going to confession. That is not the point of confession, and I think you know that. However, if you disagree with that logic - perhaps you can point to me where, exactly, the Baltimore Catechism (or the newer catechism, if you prefer) says a person should use the sacraments to further their dishonesty? I can’t speak that intelligently about the Baltimore Catechism as it was a bit before my time, but I can tell you where the current catechism addresses lying - it’s covered quite extensively in the portion dealing with the 8th commandment…that little bugger about bearing false witness.
Also, as I added in a post that got attached after you had responded to this one - whether one chose to tell or keep was situational as to which was best. I can probably come up with just as many situations for both telling and keeping quiet. My beef isn’t with the choice for silence so much as it is the choice to use the sacraments to justify covering up the truth.
All sins, by their very definition impact those around us; so it is not just adultery that impacts the spouse. Why is it you particularly focus on telling the spouse about adultery - or do you agree that the spouse has to confess all sins or be guility of the sin of omission to the other spouse?
I chose to focus on adultery because that was the topic of the thread. By the logic of thistle’s post - a person could use the sacraments to duck the responsibility of owning up to bad behavior for any action. Since you obviously agree with thistle’s logic - perhaps you can explain why this behavior is acceptable in cases of adultery, and whether you feel it is also acceptable to hide behind the sacraments as justification for ducking responsibility for other sins as well?
As I noted before - going to confession is not the excuse for not telling your spouse you cheated on them. The much more honest approach would be to just say outright, “I didn’t tell because I didn’t feel that was the right thing to do” or whatever other reason a person might choose - but DO NOT BLAME THE SACRAMENT!!!
Or is it that you feel that the offending spouse now has to inflict more damage to the marriage before they can truly be forgiven?
Why do you feel the offending spouse should be allowed a free pass? And yes - a half dozen Hail Marys, which seems to be the usual penance regardless of what sins are confessed - is, essentially, a free pass.
What if the adulterer contracts an STD and brings it home to their spouse. Does the spouse deserve to know they might have an STD before it is too late to treat it effectively? Or is it more important that the adulterer is off the hook because it really isn’t fair to expect them to suffer any real consequences for their actions - regardless of the suffering inflicted on their spouse?
Now that I’ve asked that, what I believe is this: honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. And honesty from the beginning of a relationship can avoid a whole host of issues later on.
That said - marriage takes commitment and the willingness to work at it to make it work. Even if two people are willing to work to keep it fresh - they can still drift into adultery if they focus on the wrong areas of their relationship - i.e., they choose to focus on the kitten in the room when they should be more concerned about the mountain lion crouching nearby, ready to attack.
When adultery happens - it is more often a sign of something else not being right in the relationship - there is either some problem there or the couple has allowed themselves to drift away from that original commitment, ultimately allowing the relationship to become stale. In either case - especially if there is a problem - marital counseling of some sort is almost certainly in order. However, for the counseling to work - it requires commitment from both spouses and I would think honesty as well.
I believe that sooner or later - if a relationship is going to heal and be back on solid ground again, honesty must be reinserted into that relationship. Maybe that can be done while keeping the adultery a secret - maybe it cannot. Sooner or later, however, the person who erred needs to say, “Enough is enough” and knock it off. Excuses only last for so long, and “Well, I confessed it so I can’t tell my spouse without breaking the seal of the Confessional” is not just a cheap shot on the marital relationship but on the sacrament as well. The reality about adultery, as I see it is this (and it applies to other sins as well): if we aren’t comfortable owning up for our mistakes to the person we harmed by those mistakes - we shouldn’t be making those mistakes. If you’re not comfortable telling your spouse you cheated on them - don’t cheat. If you’re not comfortable repaying your friend for the candy bar you stole out of their desk drawer at work - don’t steal the candy bar. If you’re not comfortable working extra hours to make up for the time you stole from your boss with extended lunches - don’t take the extended lunch breaks.
Just as confession is good for your soul, so is honesty. Frequent confession, if done seriously, will keep most people a little more honest, not to mention accountable.