Advice for Suicide as a Sin

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Shelion said:
A friend of ours, and then me too, seperately ordered/bought Eternal Masses for her - not sure how you call that in English - but somebody else hopefully will correct my language if I’m wrong. Basically they’re Masses said in a Convent that will say those Masses for a given soul (living or dead) as long as the convent exists. You could search for that in your country.
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In USA this would likely be called a Perpetual Enrollment and is offered online by many shrines (such as the ones for St. Jude, St. Anthony, etc.) and some religious orders.
 
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First of all, this isn’t the issue as the family has not even looked into whether a funeral Mass could be held for their loved one. It’s not a case of they asked and the priest said no. They’re not even asking.

Second, the Church views suicide nowadays with a great deal of mercy, understanding like I said that many people who take their own lives may not be acting with totally free will and may very well repent before the moment of death but when it’s too late to prevent death.

Third, as we have no idea what the priest in this case would decide, as the family of the deceased has chosen not to have a funeral for him, it’s insensitive to speculate and turn a post about someone struggling with death of his family member into a place to discuss historic theology of the Church. If you want to discuss suicide generally, it would be much more kind and charitable to start a new thread.
TryingToBelieve said:
The new church has been very kind to us. Priest asked why we switched parishes and I told him. He said what they did wasn’t right. As others have said here, only God knows and should be left in his hands! I will always remember this priests kindness. I will be saying prayers for you and your family at mass.
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I am happy you were able to find a new parish and a priest who showed you kindness and understanding. I believe that is closer to the norm these days and that’s as it should be.
 
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Given some of the turns this conversation is taking… and considering all conversant stakeholders in this thread… with a dedicated interest in the topic…

It might be best to hear from a Priest, if CAF can provide one, who might lend some clarity to the content here…

Please also note the timeliness of this thread… Fr Rossi, Monsignor at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, once gave an Advent/Christmas homily on suicides a few years ago… In it, Monsignor Rossi said this time of year is one of the worst times for heart attacks and suicides due to various forms of stress… This time of year Christ is closer to any and all of us than ever, and THAT is what we should be thankful for and at peace with in all aspects of our lives… in every way possible… and as best we can…
 
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Maybe true but doesn’t help me as a parishioner to heal. More upset that instead of helping me the Pastor defended the retired priest. In the end the new parish has been wonderful. Also suicide topic I brought up at Marriage Encounter group and the pain from past church, the support has been great from the couples in ME. So in the end I pray that maybe God was leading me to find another parish. I just don’t think anyone here should give the OP any grief and be very supportive in this trying time.
 
That is where we will part ways. He might not of been wrong in saying it in homily but he definitely was wrong in the way he handled our talk about it afterward as the Pastor was to IMO. For me it became impossible to pray in this church. Mind you at this time we were active parishioners for over 14 years. I just think this brim and firestorm homily approach is not the way to go. Anyway peace and may God love you 🙂
 
Perhaps, but it is not definite. There is the great story of the woman who was in distress because her husband had committed suicide and she approached St. John Vianney. He told her, “I tell you he is saved. He is in Purgatory, and you must pray for him. Between the parapet of the bridge and the water he had time to make an act of contrition.” And then asked her pray for him.

We don’t know the human heart at the moment of death. Only G-d does.
 
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