Advocates urge more awareness about natural family planning options
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Hoosier_Daddy
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Myth 1, it’s easy
Myth 2. It should be used by all
Myth 3. It’s just as “effective” to deploy as other non, sinful methods
Myth 4. It’s impossible to use it wrongly
Myth 5. Its historical scientific medicine
Myth 6 it works for every couple…
I could go on but this thread will get nasty enough with just that chum in the water.
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PJH_74
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I never really got the Church’s obsession with “natural” family planning. Both a condom and these methods are designed to prevent babies, so either can’t really be going against the church wanting couples to be open to children. Maybe it’s OK because natural methods are more bound to fail? 
People are going to have sex and venereal diseases cause birth defects and other birth issues. People die from AIDs and other sexually transmitted diseases. Both of these go against the protection of life the Church is so concerned about and this is why it doesn’t and probably never will make sense to me.
People are going to have sex and venereal diseases cause birth defects and other birth issues. People die from AIDs and other sexually transmitted diseases. Both of these go against the protection of life the Church is so concerned about and this is why it doesn’t and probably never will make sense to me.
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pensmama87
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No.I never really got the Church’s obsession with “natural” family planning. Both a condom and these methods are designed to prevent babies, so either can’t really be going against the church wanting couples to be open to children. Maybe it’s OK because natural methods are more bound to fail?
People are going to have sex and venereal diseases cause birth defects and other birth issues. People die from AIDs and other sexually transmitted diseases. Both of these go against the protection of life the Church is so concerned about and this is why it doesn’t and probably never will make sense to me.
NFP differs because it does not change the act or the persons involved. Putting a barrier between the couple changes the act. Hormones change the person.
The idea that “people will just do it anyway” is true…in part. Same for most sins. But before contraception became widely available, the hookup culture wasn’t a thing. People had fewer sexual partners than they do today. There were many, many fewer unmarried pregnancies and venereal disease was less common. There are also antibiotic-resistant strains of some of them now. Yippee. Sexual liberation, ain’t it great?
We no longer teach people that they can, in fact, control their sexual urges the same way they control urges to overeat or ingest harmful substances or never clean their homes. But they can.
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PJH_74
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Either is called sex and hormones, believe me, are present in both.
Culture changes too and not always for the worst. While I’ve never had sex with anyone but my spouse, to suppose that sex never happened outside marriage in the “golden” age is silly. Actually it seems that sex amongst young people is on a down slide. All that aside, contraception is by far favorable to abortion.
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edwest2
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Contraception led to the ultimate form of contraception: abortion. In 1960, there were 4 Venereal Diseases, of which two were a concern. Now, there are a lot more. According to CDC, the US is going through an STD epidemic, but, no worries, there are treatments. Well, in some cases, that is it. Genital Herpes is treatable but never goes away. And there is Chlamydia:
"Chlamydia in women
"Chlamydia is the most frequently reported sexually transmitted bacterial infection in the United States. In 2011 alone, approximately 1.4 million chlamydia cases were reported to the CDC. It is CDC estimated that 1 out of 15 sexually active teenage girls (ages 14-19) has a chlamydia infection. Chlamydia is easy to spread because it’s likeliness to have very mild or no symptoms, and thus many unknowingly pass it on to others. The CDC recommends that sexually active women get tested for STDs on an annual basis. Getting tested regularly is especially important since chlamydia infection increases the risk of contracting another STD such as HIV.
"How chlamydia infects women
“The chlamydia bacterium first infects the cervix (the passageway which joins the vagina and the uterus). Symptoms of a chlamydia infection may include vaginal discharge, bleeding between periods, painful urination and stomach pain. From there, the infection may spread upward to the urethra (urine canal), the uterus (womb) and the Fallopian tubes (tubes that carry fertilized eggs from the ovaries to the uterus). If the infection is left untreated, it can lead to pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). In addition, chlamydia can lead to serious consequences such as infertility and ectopic pregnancy (a pregnancy in which the embryo develops outside of the womb).”
But the most irrational part is that ever since the FDA approved The Pill in 1960, there has been an aggressive, ongoing campaign that tells people that you cannot control your sexual desires. Time magazine ran a cover story in 1967 to help market The Pill as a good thing. Starting in the 1970s and continuing till today, casual sex, and cohabitation sex are marketed as good things. The manufacturers of contraceptives have got to move product. The more the better. But, most people are now blind, including Christians, to the idea of self-discipline. And limits. Mostly thanks to movies and TV.
For Christians, at least, marriage is always about being open to life, not putting a chemical or physical barrier between you and your spouse, For unmarried individuals, it is a rational and respectful choice to refrain from sexual activity until marriage. I was born before The Pill and the average number of kids for miles around was 2. When my mother heard about it, she asked me for an explanation. She called The Pill useless. She, and others, had their kids and were done.
Ed
"Chlamydia in women
"Chlamydia is the most frequently reported sexually transmitted bacterial infection in the United States. In 2011 alone, approximately 1.4 million chlamydia cases were reported to the CDC. It is CDC estimated that 1 out of 15 sexually active teenage girls (ages 14-19) has a chlamydia infection. Chlamydia is easy to spread because it’s likeliness to have very mild or no symptoms, and thus many unknowingly pass it on to others. The CDC recommends that sexually active women get tested for STDs on an annual basis. Getting tested regularly is especially important since chlamydia infection increases the risk of contracting another STD such as HIV.
"How chlamydia infects women
“The chlamydia bacterium first infects the cervix (the passageway which joins the vagina and the uterus). Symptoms of a chlamydia infection may include vaginal discharge, bleeding between periods, painful urination and stomach pain. From there, the infection may spread upward to the urethra (urine canal), the uterus (womb) and the Fallopian tubes (tubes that carry fertilized eggs from the ovaries to the uterus). If the infection is left untreated, it can lead to pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). In addition, chlamydia can lead to serious consequences such as infertility and ectopic pregnancy (a pregnancy in which the embryo develops outside of the womb).”
But the most irrational part is that ever since the FDA approved The Pill in 1960, there has been an aggressive, ongoing campaign that tells people that you cannot control your sexual desires. Time magazine ran a cover story in 1967 to help market The Pill as a good thing. Starting in the 1970s and continuing till today, casual sex, and cohabitation sex are marketed as good things. The manufacturers of contraceptives have got to move product. The more the better. But, most people are now blind, including Christians, to the idea of self-discipline. And limits. Mostly thanks to movies and TV.
For Christians, at least, marriage is always about being open to life, not putting a chemical or physical barrier between you and your spouse, For unmarried individuals, it is a rational and respectful choice to refrain from sexual activity until marriage. I was born before The Pill and the average number of kids for miles around was 2. When my mother heard about it, she asked me for an explanation. She called The Pill useless. She, and others, had their kids and were done.
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pensmama87
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I have no idea what you mean by this. The pill/ring/hormonal IUDs “work” by suppressing ovulation. They interrupt/break/alter the natural functioning of the woman. It’s anti-therapeutic. And as many of us who used it long-term can address, the side effects aren’t nothing.
Sure, something sexual is still happening. But you had to do something to it or to yourself to avoid pregnancy. If you abstain, you’ve changed nothing.
If you eat because you really want junk food, but then throw it up so you won’t get fat (i.e. interrupt the natural process of digestion) that’s disordered eating. If you want to lose weight…you eat less. You exert your will even if those cupcakes call your name. It’s hard, but possible, especially if you know you can and practice with time.
It would be silly if I said that…but it’s not what I said.
Abortion is a great evil, that’s true. But I remain firmly unconvinced that access to contraception prevents abortion. I’m sure someone can provide the Guttmacher stats that a significant percentage of women who obtain abortions were using contraception the month they conceived.
If you think you have a right to sex “consequence free,” (which is a ridiculous standard we don’t apply to any other aspect of our lives), then when it works as intended, do you think you’re more or less likely to accept the natural consequence? (Consequence here meaning, a natural result of an action, not with the sense of punishment.)
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